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from JDS-visibility must itself nothing Change on the Existing principle the You whom To pressenden and To verkaufenden CD-Content ablieferst. It's all right here Specifically I do not around the distribution. (be because JDS has undertaken only a limited amount on sales durchzuführen I me only ungern present likes *g*)

OGLBasic has of names since not The capacity a disengaged XProfan-Interpreter abzulösen. One XProfan konvertiert seltenst to that OGLBasicer - The vorhandenen XProfan are however necessary around the thing forth To bring - because these would sure gladly distribute. (as they only dürften)

i see whom psychological balancing act between no Altlasten and freeware-Interpreter, but considerate that the what You Altlasten name Neukunden hardly tangieren becomes/must.

The highlighted OGL-specialization is as Publizierung one DAS IST DAS WINDOWS BASIC DUDE! not really förderlich. most RGHner benefit XProfan, means would most very the too with friends etc. or on work or in the school ZEIGEN gug time I can what can.

the Topic XProfan on The schools would from of my visibility of these proposition even for a multiple getoppt, because on whom schools alights it then allemal.

RGH

...

so, and now must first once XProfan 11 ready go ... ;)

Greeting
Roland

Garnicht true, XProfan10 - so kommts me to - is still superaktuell.

XProfan10 is hardly explore and ausgenutzt and by the Subscriptionsmöglichkeit having already many really-interested XProfan11b, something tire let.

i'd even say first once must The XProfan.de ready go ... ;) , XProfan 11 can You then still much better(?) on The people bring and get around.

Dietmar
Horn

XProfan heard on The schools - without if and but! and of course not as abgespeckte Version with willkürlichen Einschränkungen and not as OGL-Basic - separate the each latest Interpreter without jegliche Beschränkungen.

that the weder with the shareware- yet with the SE-Version funktionierte, the show still The past over 10 years! too OGL-Basic is no wirkliche alternative. One Beginner seek itself first of all mostly demonstration-Codes from the internet together, if it not random in the HY-territory dwelling and in a of my courses everything mundgerecht serviert get. this abgespeckte XProfan namens OGL-Basic is for completely unfit - and the SW-Version of XProfan 9 already none.

If the actually XProfan-Interpreter Freeware would, then would itself guaranteeing first time any Freeware-Downloadseiten and PC-magazines hereon fall, - Perhaps even time again mehrteiligen Programmierkursen for Programmieranfänger. this is of course too no warranty for a erfolgreiche Weiterverbreitung of XProfan - but as it yet run was, klappte it already over years away not. means must one finally new things try, if is a thing vorantreiben would like.

of proposition Profan² on The schools from get ex ca. the year 2001 -zigtausend SE-versions (even as Klassensätze) free on The schools distributed - with hunderten or quite tausenden of demonstration-Codes, with Programmiertools, etc. The Resonanz was and is very humble been.

The lane over The Informatiklehrer has as Irrweg erwiesen - means must one to new because of search. and there remaining only the lane over The schoolboy! where take because nowadys The schoolboy your Computer science-Kenntnisse since, The tappt im dunkeln in the a or maximum two Wochenstunden Informatikunterricht not receive can? correctly.! Over internet, from PC-Zeitschriften and over mouth-To-mouth-Propaganda!

what Jens Driese with of/ one such decision concern should, whom actually Interpreter as Freeware freizugeben, the understand I already none. as Author of/ one software would I me still utterly not vorschreiben let, How I mean software dispel, neither of a Alleinvertreiber namens JDS. finally can bestehende Absprachen or Verträge to years too time alter, if the Vermarktungskonzept not zufriedenstellend functions.

I try me always into site one jugendlichen Programmieranfängers hineinzuversetzen. for this are 60 Euro very plenty coal (though XProfan in the comparison To others large Programmiersprachen naturally very preiswert is). still what brings, if hardly someone XProfan as windows-Programming-Language knows? whom Knut as Eisbärbaby against knows almost eachone - and why well let this The cash registers the Zoos ring, almost until Überlaufen? Geschicktes marketing and nothing other!

means try many Beginner, with irgendeinem Freeware-Pascal- or C-Compiler your first steps. and To 99% entrapments tappt im dunkeln so any on The Fresse. Endergebnis: Sometime to relatively kurzer Time give tappt im dunkeln your think about then for good on. i know, wovon I speech, because several ours Jugendlichen had this experience in her to-xprofanen Time ditto had.

with XProfan against it hätten tappt im dunkeln whom Entry certainly on attempt geschafft. since september 2007 have I even two neunjährige schoolboy (3. class), The the successful bewältigen. with the SW- or SE-Version had the never and never worked, because who would like in its Program already on GetText / SetText, Window Title, Window Style etc. dispense? and which parents wealthy nowadys quick time 60 Euro (means 120 DM) over the table, if the Sohnemann short-term interest on the Programmierenlernen shows, where at the beginning not yet time clear is, whether the Perhaps not again only one Strohfeuer his likes?

What the previous XProfan.de concerns - so can in the multimedialen age really none state More make - and already none as Author of/ one windows-Programming-Language.

whether that here however as Gemeinschaftsprojekt functions could, there have I mean doubt. yet went Yes dbzgl. with Gemeinschaftsprojekten solely everything into trousers. because here goes it Yes not primarily therefore, only einmalig in a kurzzeitiegen Kraftakt on The speedy what zusammenzupinseln, separate the everything must indeed kontinuierlich taken care of, updated and weiterentwickelt go.

there would I already sooner for, The XProfan.com as offizielle XProfan-Supportseite To deklarieren and the ugly and ancient wirkende blue-weiße Monster simply abzuschalten.

Greeting
Dietmar

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Hrm, if I moreover Perhaps something say must... The Page have I still already so laid out the tappt im dunkeln almost at all none care want.

RGH

i'd even say first once must The XProfan.de ready go ... ;) , XProfan 11 can You then still much better(?) on The people bring and get around.

Ne ne ne, XProfan 11 becomes in the Spring 2008 on the market come. the standing already solid. when in the Spring very, this is though not yet out, because before it with JDS into exakte planning weg can, must I first time at first Release-Kandidaten his!
(I stops not plenty of it, first whom deadline famous To and give then time look, how far I then be ...)

Perhaps ought to one The Vertriebsthematik time from this Thread here rauslassen.

If the Thread to a runderneuerten XProfan.de lead, has it but already what brought. and How said: Time is in the momentum by me very rarely, means rates not as Desinteresse, if I me here sooner seldom and sooner short To word login.

Greeting
Roland

Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4

RGH

Dietmar horn

there would I already sooner for, The XProfan.com as offizielle XProfan-Supportseite To deklarieren

Why because the?

XProfan.com is too without official Stempel well and plenty visit. what about me be glad, that it them give. I stops it for important, that it a of manufacturers (means me) completely independent Page gives. what about me faith too, that it for Interessenten not unwichtig is, that it a independent Community gives.

One offizieller Stempel would nothing change and already none improve. The generation, The believes, that something therefore rather becomes, that it official is, is on the extinction. ;)

If I so look, what with others Programmiersprachen runs, too there are The independent Communities very important and me a unverzichtbare Anlaufstelle.

nothing so withal can The offizielle Page too one Facelifting tolerate. I had Yes together with iF already time started ...

and to the Lounch of XProfan 11 (or. the dispatching the master-CD on JDS) have so did i again Time, The thing intensiver to do. To to extradition of XProfan 11 through JDS are then Yes yet some weeks (at least 4) Time and Perhaps create we Yes then too timely whom Start a renewed XProfan.de.

Greeting
Roland

Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4

RGH

Dietmar horn

there would I already sooner for, The XProfan.com as offizielle XProfan-Supportseite To deklarieren

the see I utterly just as, therefore the Thread.

RGH

Perhaps ought to one The Vertriebsthematik time from this Thread here rauslassen.

quite correctly, The Vertriebsthematik has here nothing to search except that I anmerke thats itself even in none point Change should. JDS vermarktet moreover what You to that squash in order give, You sortierst only circa. only and on my own definitive is whether You it want.

RGH

and to the Lounch of XProfan 11 (or. the dispatching the master-CD on JDS) have so did i again Time, The thing intensiver to do. To to extradition of XProfan 11 through JDS are then Yes yet some weeks (at least 4) Time and Perhaps create we Yes then too timely whom Start a renewed XProfan.de.

Greeting
Roland

Einleuchtend and thoroughly machbar because i'd suggest for XProfan.de could count less is More!

(Spielwiese is eh The XProfan.com)

what Jens however with of/ one possible Interpreterfreigabe To do has understand I do not.

01/22/08 ▲

RGH

Einleuchtend and thoroughly machbar because i'd suggest for XProfan.de could count less is More!

(Spielwiese is eh The XProfan.com)

very. I try time today evening or tommorrow zusammenzufassen, what of my unmaßgeblichen opinion to on The offizielle XProfan.de heard ... and what even not and here rather aufgehoben is.

Greeting
Roland

Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4

01/22/08 ▲