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Michael
Wodrich | [quote:a1463f69cc]i know, I could The schoolboy on recent shareware-versions or The SE-Version verweisen, but with its Einschränkungen is m.E. no vernünftiges works possible.
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Perhaps should You there time with Roland drüber diskutieren, take off schoolboy/Beginner there everything mere heard and what to remove can.
I put it I do not straight simply to, itself To consider what everything omit must for a schoolboy/Shareware version.
here could a little bit Info from the front already helpful his, even if it not all ideas all right his becomes - it could itself but in later versions as helpful feature.
Best wishes 
Michael Wodrich |
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| Programmieren, das spannendste Detektivspiel der Welt. | 02/13/06 ▲ |
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Dietmar
Horn | Hello Michael,
of my opinion to ought to one with shareware any Funktionalitäten extensively testing can, before one itself thereafter evtl. moreover entschließt, The Full Version To buy. because the weder with the shareware- yet with the SE-Version the case is, would have the potential customer derzeitig means nevertheless The cat in the bag buy.
straight with of/ one Programming-Language might it very heavy his To decide, which functions one in a Trial blockieren ought to, circa none users to whom head To prod. If one in example The data base-Funktionalitäten ab, border one at the outset many potential customers from, which whom remainder then none first hither look at. so could one sure for each others Einschränkung ditto Gegenargumente find.
my opinion moreover:
no Einschränkungen, what command, functions etc. concerns - without if and but!
For this would I it for meaningfully erachten (and this too for a right wirksame Registrierungs-Motivationshilfe hold), if z.B. The Number of maximum compilierbaren Codezeilen in the Trial terminable is (z.B. on 1000 Lines - the might a good compromise his). Additional could Yes in the Trial evtl. too yet The Number of maximum available stehenden global variables per type limited go (z.B. on 50 or 100).
who so then the entire pkg (including all Internet herumschwirrenden code-Examples) really sensible and extensively testing could and thereafter for well befunden has, the buy itself then automatically The Full Version, after his Programmierprojekt form adopted has and it solely yet a couple additional possible Codezeilen hapert.
who always and forever with 1000 Codezeilen auskommt, the should itself over the RGH-as gift forward and happy so go.
because Beginner eh yet very far of a to some extent effectively Programmierstil removes are, dürften tappt im dunkeln with ihren first Projekten very quick these magic 1000-Lines-boundary achieve.
too the new Possibility, several Commands in a row write to, would these Lines-boundary not aushebeln can, because the Compiler pick these Mammut-Lines to the Compilieren Yes anyhow first time again apart.
The Interpreter ought to m.E. not at all limited go, because sometime becomes well eachone Hobbyprogrammierer his proposition compilieren, to EXE left and pass want. with the unrestricted Interpreter could the potential customer then nevertheless first time sensible on seinem proposition weiterarbeiten, To it from his government a Taschengelderhöhung get, or the Weihnachtsmann it dbzgl. gnädig gesonnen is.
Weitergehende Einschränkungen make of my opinion to little sense and terror The schoolboy sooner of Programmierenlernen with XProfan ex, as that tappt im dunkeln moreover to motivate, itself to that next birthday or Weihnachtsfest The Full Version give as a present To let. by then go itself something pfiffigere Kerlchen sure one Weilchen with the Auslagerung of Programmteilen in PRCs over waters hold can, still on duration becomes the too no satisfaction for tappt im dunkeln his. Fortgeschrittenere Programmer, The of others Programmiersprachen To XProfan hinüberschauen, go itself yet plenty faster on the 1000-Lines-boundary disturbing, as they the others thatswhy-around for itself yourself as OK bear. and in the rule dürften such people then indeed no Taschengeldempfänger More his.
otherwise find I Rolands Preispolitik for Full Version fully aale!
Greeting
Dietmar |
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| Multimedia für Jugendliche und junge Erwachsene - MMJ Hoyerswerda e.V. [...]  Windows 95 bis Windows 7 Profan² 6.6 bis XProfan X2 mit XPSE Das große XProfan-Lehrbuch: [...] | 02/13/06 ▲ |
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RGH | [quote:690bba1b98=Dietmar horn]Hello Michael,
of my opinion to ought to one with shareware any Funktionalitäten extensively testing can, before one itself thereafter evtl. moreover entschließt, The Full Version To buy. because the weder with the shareware- yet with the SE-Version the case is, would have the potential customer derzeitig means nevertheless The cat in the bag buy.
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Hello, The Shareware Version allows - except for WINDOWTITLE and WINDOWSTYLE - any command and functions - without If and but! there's means almost nothing, what not testing can. The programs can compiled and the Runtime launched go, so that too The filled speed the Full Version available standing. an constraint the Codezeilen I had in the allerersten public Version (1.3), The I then to some Diskussionen entrapments let, what to Version 1.4 led. The Shareware Version 8.0a can with Units bypass. The into next Meet erscheinende Version 9.1 naturally too.
what whom amplitude the SE-Version concerns, be I gladly ready To diskutieren. The jetztige amplitude watts seinerzeit with Achim doctor for its Schulprojekt (Profan 7.5 SE) ausgemacht and 8.0 SE weitergeführt.
Greeting
Roland |
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| Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4 | 02/13/06 ▲ |
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Peter
Max
Müller | Hi,
now standing but in the Help the the commands SetText only in the Full Version existing. |
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Dietmar
Horn | Hmmmm ....
[box:b8bdc119ed]Hello, The Shareware Version allows - except for WINDOWTITLE and WINDOWSTYLE - any command and functions - without If and but! there's means almost nothing, what not testing can[/box:b8bdc119ed]
... the see I unfortunately not integrally so.
I have me straight once more The Shareware Version of [...] runtergeladen and installs.
loudly Help to the SetText-commands not functions - in the Interpreter functions it neither. in the Compilat against it functions it. Something like understands and understand guaranteeing no Beginner, if the nirgendwo described standing.
The fehlende Windowstyle-commands lead in the Context with the therefore missing Possibility the Einstellens the Dialogfensterstiles for Mainwindow To further Einschränkungen.
That to the Compilat not to EXE left can, the find I ditto not straight cool, because a EXE-File is Yes well the target the Programmierens.
The Reasons for these Einschränkungen must I Yes not absolutely understand. nevertheless or. straight therefore stay I thereby, that one with the Shareware Version weder sensible testing, yet works can.
Profan 8.0 SE have I yet yet nirgendwo to that Download found. I have solely The versions 7.0 and 7.5 SE.
Greeting
Dietmar |
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| Multimedia für Jugendliche und junge Erwachsene - MMJ Hoyerswerda e.V. [...] Windows 95 bis Windows 7 Profan² 6.6 bis XProfan X2 mit XPSE Das große XProfan-Lehrbuch: [...] | 02/14/06 ▲ |
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RGH | [quote:d472adcedb=Dietmar horn]loudly Help to the SetText-commands not functions - in the Interpreter functions it neither. in the Compilat against it functions it. Something like understands and understand guaranteeing no Beginner, if the nirgendwo described standing.[/quote:d472adcedb]
Ooops ... there must I in shareware-Compiler what overlooking having. Interpreter and Compiler should naturally whom equal Befehlsumfang kennen ...
[quote:d472adcedb]The fehlende Windowstyle-commands lead in the Context with the therefore missing Possibility the Einstellens the Dialogfensterstiles for Mainwindow To further Einschränkungen.[/quote:d472adcedb]
this is naturally correctly.. of course can very plenty too without Dialogfensterstil achieve (I use it so well How never), but since I will time drüber cogitate ...
[quote:d472adcedb]That to the Compilat not to EXE left can, the find I ditto not straight cool, because a EXE-File is Yes well the target the Programmierens.[/quote:d472adcedb]
But this is no wirkliche Einschränkung, there the from the Runtime launched Compilat likewise rasch runs, as an finished EXE-File. one can itself means objectively without Einschränlung from the efficiency and the speed the finished programs convincing. And if one The Endung *.prc with the Runtime verknüpft, can The finished programs even just as komfortabel (about through Doubleclick in the Explorer) started, How finished EXEn ... and one has whom Vortei, that the programs Real tiny are.
[quote:d472adcedb]Profan 8.0 SE have I yet yet nirgendwo to that Download found. I have solely The versions 7.0 and 7.5 SE.[/quote:d472adcedb]
Achim doctor has The Version 8.0 SE very as others versions too include. and what's more have I already the Öfteren on different to put hereon hingewiesen, that Bildungseinrichtungen these Version free by me ordern can and the CD then bypassing on the lane goes. the pure Installation Package can I you naturally too gladly by Mail zukommen let. though have I momentarily a 9.1 SE in planning. (I were ium momentum only on a more Post zusammenhängender free time, around the pkg To truss.)
Greeting
Roland |
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| Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4 | 03/02/06 ▲ |
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