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2 Netzteile 1 motor

 
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Houston,

1 Gleichstromgetriebemotor (max. 12V 3A) functions super with a Notebooknetzteil.

2 this Notebooknetzteile are present and the motor should itself according to into Steckdose gestecktem power adapter turn - The Netzteile are gegenpolig on the motor montiert.

If only 1 power adapter montiert is, functions the motor but are both Netzteile montiert then klickert only the each bagged power adapter instead of whom motor To turn.

I have of Elektr(on)ik hardly Idea, vlt. registered a manner Sicherung in the each bagged power adapter a "Kurzschluss".

this functions naturally:

power1 -> power adapter1 (+-) -> motor turn right
power1 -> power adapter1 (-+) -> motor turn left
power2 -> power adapter2 (+-) -> motor turn right
power2 -> power adapter2 (-+) -> motor turn left

however not working:

power1 -> power adapter1 (+-) ___ motor turn not power adapter1 power only each second quiet "klick".
---------- -> power adapter2 (-+) /

and not:

---------- -> power adapter1 (+-) ___ motor turn not power adapter2 power only each second quiet "klick".
power2 -> power adapter2 (-+) /

self-evident are never zeitgleich both Netzteile bagged, It's all right only therefore by Einstecken the jeweiligen Netzteiles The Drehrichtung To to determine.

I need well one manner 12V 3A- Y-Bauteil, that once of A power comes B zumacht or once of B power comes A zumacht so I both Netzteile simply behind this Bauteil gegenteilig on whom motor poland can.

Hülfe, what kind of Bauteil need I or. How becomes something like called?
 
06/13/10  
 



 
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white not, must Yes whom power not entire abzapfen and shine or geräuschen ought to it neither. OK, lamp could one "einpacken".
 
06/22/10  
 




Stefan
Schenk
Hi,
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mfg stefan
 
06/22/10  
 



Ah, class!

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(have Your Posting simply a Direktlink enclosed ^^)

I Search nevertheless whom optimalen consumer, vlt. one dimmbarer resistance or so because I in this drop with warmth sooner "kein" trouble have. Dimmbarer vlt. therefore, so I optimal take on can between "Relais toggles noch" and "Abschaltung".
 
06/22/10  
 




Thomas
Freier
If no bauart bedingte Abfallverzögerung is, then time with Freilaufdiode testing: [...] 
 
Gruß Thomas
Windows XP SP2, XProfan X2
06/22/10  
 



I consider grade, whether I do not simply to that Relaisschalten one explicit schwächeres power adapter take, Have here yet so one 5V 300milli.

might I vlt. the 2. then spare bleibende strong power adapter with the first power adapter contact for More power in the motor simply because I + on + and - on - knubble? ^^ (or would quite the Relais schmilzen?^^)
 
06/22/10  
 




Stefan
Schenk
Yes, You could because power so theoretical raise.
Since but the power from the resistance and the thrill yields,
becomes you not plenty bring, there You of course More power rausziehen
could before what broken goes, You the but not can, there You
not so beinflussen can.
If you want the itself the motor faster turn should one first
time know what kind of Gleichstrommotor you have. means whom very.
I go simply time of a permanent Errekten universal DC-motor from,
there can you a faster Drehzahl by a höhere thrill achieve,
but the can I you not say whether the your Netzteile verkraften.
For this müsstest You of 1NT + aufs 2NT - and of 2NT + To your motor
(means over Relais hold) and then back to that 1NT -.

The thrill for Control (chid of Relais) could you
too from the equal power adapter take, simply best with a
Vorwiderstand around the thrill down To catch.

mfg stefan

EDIT OT: Thomas suitor Have time ne ask and of course
with take off one Program have you got The Zeichnungen
for Schaltungen made?
 
06/22/10  
 



 
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Thomas
Freier
@iF: of my opinion to, should on the motor a höhere thrill through Prallelschaltung the load-Netzgeräte possible his. are the really Ladegeräte for 12V Akkus?
Sperrdioden not forget. means:
+ power pack 1 ...Lüsterklemme1...Diode ->| ...clip Relaissockel +
+ power pack 2 ...Lüsterklemme2...Diode ->| ...clip Relaissockel +
then testing whether the baugleiche Relais for 6V DC with 5V DC functions (should), if the 3.power adapter 300mA supply. are 300mW meant, becomes it well nothing, since the Spule ca. 500mW has.

@ Stefan: one uraltes CAD-Program: TSCDRAW2 of TommySoftware. Reicht for me, I still ancient habit in the Papiermodus work. there it only dxf-export has, drucke I The drawing as PDF and memory then The PDF as jpg, png or tiff. have too yet tscad4, The I but seldom use.
 
Gruß Thomas
Windows XP SP2, XProfan X2
06/22/10  
 




Stefan
Schenk
first time thanks for Programmnamen, but I mean this is not integrally the I virtual Have, would have virtual this is one Program where one The electrical Bauteile only rüberziehen must and then contact, but since must one indeed everything yourself draw or? so one Program did you know not random what freeware is?

Quote Thomas suitor:
@iF: of my opinion to, should on the motor a höhere thrill through Prallelschaltung the load-Netzgeräte possible his. Sperrdioden not forget. means:
+ power pack 1 ...Lüsterklemme1...Diode ->| ...clip Relaissockel +
+ power pack 2 ...Lüsterklemme2...Diode ->| ...clip Relaissockel +

can I you not consent, by a Parallelschaltung can one höherer power pulled go. by a Reihenschaltung becomes The thrill increased.
 
06/22/10  
 




Thomas
Freier
Stefan, iF knows The thrill on the motor under Last not. I go first once from the 12V battery charger from and verbleibenden 10V on the motor. then could The Parallelschaltung 12V Motorspannung bring. can it Yes once directly and without Dioden testing, whether the motor faster becomes.
with the software time to freeware schaltplaneditor search. so ad hoc : [...] 
important are naturally always The Bibliotheken.
 
Gruß Thomas
Windows XP SP2, XProfan X2
06/22/10  
 




Stefan
Schenk
thanks, the schaut well from werd I nacher time runterladen.
but I can your Statement still not integrally follow. One PC(Laptop)- power adapter is a
stabilisiertes power adapter, as much as I know, that is the it under Last and under Leerlauf hardly
differences in the thrill gives. From there since can you with of/ one Parallelschaltung no more
Motorleistung get, there no more thrill anliegt and no kleinerer resistance
(Leiterwiderstand) as before it there's and the can (schätz I zuminderst time) default go,
there schätzungsweiße no right long pipeline is used.

From therefore white I already not How You hereon come the 10V on the motor border, where are with you The others 2V stayed? ah Yes, Have I of course gleub I moreover supra already time geschreiben but with of/ one Parallelschaltung changes the thrill not!, The thrills add itself with of/ one Reihenschaltung.

hoff time the we Nich The whole Time together vorbeireden. but Have me your mail couple time durchgelesen and werd simply not schlau draus.
mfg stefan
 
06/22/10  
 




Thomas
Freier
I faith not, that we together past talk. IF should finally The data its Netzgeräte read and famous make. the it itself for a Stabilisiertes deals is To suppose. but, I could it time with one me vorliegenden 12V - 2A unit testing, whether with 3A yet 12V held go, it because of Überlast abschaltet or then The regulation not any more clutching and the thrill absinkt.
now having we Yes To july Time.
 
Gruß Thomas
Windows XP SP2, XProfan X2
06/23/10  
 



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