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@Frank
ought to you entfallen his, I "Rheinländer" from the "echten" (verrückten) Rheinland be ?

Quote from my last Thread: well, nu isset ewer joot with de jejenseitije Anscheisserei
Translation: well, now is But well with the gegenseitigen Anscheisserei ! ;)

11/14/08 ▲

Frank
Abbing

Ne bolle kölsche jong, jo...

11/14/08 ▲

Dietmar
Horn

Hello David,

under no circumstance was is my solid been, you personally To offend or quite XProfan or the community schlechtzureden.

here seem You cause and effect To confuse. I try whom beginning all Übels from of my visibility time short chronologisch aufzudröseln.

in the others Thread ("Nullposter ...", against end):

11.11.2008, 14.23:

so, so now z.B. Dietmar and z.B. Frank plainer peace of mind find, and Diskussionen over Accountlöschungen or "inaktive Mitglieder" or "Anzahl the Registrationen" of Dannen are, suppress I simply The Mitgliederanzeigen as well as lists.

and here in this Thread:

11.11. 2008, 17.23:

from nem designed reason or Betriebsunfall? by me diving The rights Page not.
I seh straight: too The left not. as if only the mittlere Frame loaded becomes...

and up to Your Kilometerposting Deinerseits utterly no Info moreover, though several Members repeatedly to whom Found for these action demand had, and though You in others Threads - in RGH-Forum - busy To mere fachlichen Topics weitergepostet had. you were means weder from Time- yet from others Found prevented been and would have at least a erklärenden Dreizeiler put down can. too any Admins were surprised been, because otherwise had You supra on the Fensterrand with eachone maintenance, Reparatur always a deutlichen Info given. this time however there were not yet time on wiederholte inquiries a short information over The Umbauarbeiten. and the benefit the Adminforums was keinem of us possible, because it not funktionierte.

so, and How must the one Außenstehender zwangsläufig grasp? "Aha, the Frank and the Dietmar are means The wicked!" Frank having itself getraut, a survey to start what about me having ditto my aboveboard opinion moreover written (How already the öfteren To this Topic). And if I mean personal opinion outer, then is the really my Own Meinumg, what about me speech so keinem to the mouth - weder you, yet Frank, yet Sonstjemandem.

first Franks Umfragestart, thereafter my ausführlichere Meinungsäußerung, letztendlich in the unmittelbaren temporal Context The Abschaltung the gebräuchlicsten functions and finally then your proposal, Frank what about me wären The "Schuldigen" and "Bösen" on this whole Übel, worunter now any others suffering must ...

David, I know, How one opinions (aware or unbewußt) ggf. manipulating or suggerieren can, if one this would like. you know meanwhile too, that I here of beginning on Derjenige be, for I ausgebe - I means with psychology, Methodik and Didaktik not straight on Kriegsfuß stand.

or andersherum framed: with sufficient methodischem and psychological skill would it Keinem be difficult, a others as long as to Weißglut To irritate, To it therefore ausrastet. and afterwards: "Aha! here see your whom proof! The Ausraster is the evilly!" understands, I my?

an only coloured Info-row on the oberen Fensterrand,or one erklärender Dreizeiler in the Thread, so How before always from you gehandhabt, had whom whole subesquent Rattenschwanz none first grow let. if need be had too first time a short Info in the Admin-area ausgereicht.

and because I ungern in a corner to put let ("Du are the evilly!"), if I micht ungerechtfertigt attacked (see beginning this Postings) and public there set feel, speech I (not only here) with such things fundamentally Klartext - the has utterly nothing with you and your Verdiensten around the community To do. with us in the Truppe is neither only each day Friede-joy-Eierkuchen angesagt - and intern fly there too occasionally times the shred. still because we thereby always personally facing or. -sit, can there none unpleasant ask, Explanations or Answer sheer (too I as boss the Truppe not), so How You, the here days aware done had. thereafter, after then means any Meinungsverschiedenheiten and Mißverständnisse together clarified been are, is the breeze through this thunderstorm cleaned - and it can go on, To joint Erfolgen (and sometimes too) Mißerfolgen. so is the anyway with us (MMJ) of beginning on.

otherwise can I with you here nothing more begin, see I otherwise Yes a menace for all Members and data.

now be I means too another menace for others XProfan and the Community? and Perhaps too yet for Programming-Language XProfan? and the to 15 years, in them I almost my entire free time unselfish with XProfan, with the program of XProfan-Tools, with XProfan-Kursen, XProfan-interested Kindern, Jugendlichen and Erwachsenen (very gladly) verbringe! that the no Halluziationen for may part are - of it konntest You yourself Yes on the 17.10. in Lauta meit own eyes and ears unvoreingenommen convincing.

If I in of my Truppe with my people so umspringen would, How You it here in this only point, around the it here went (Please not again mistake - it went mainly around the information the Members, The from you days not coming), then could I with us to shortest Time as last the light ausknipsen and the Key to the of us genutzten premises for ever to give away. there interested it then utterly no mouse More, which possible "Verdienste" I me into many years before ggf. "erworben" having could.

so! so is this issue for me for good Done, because detail can I my viewpoint and my stand on this whole story not darlegen.

Greeting
Dietmar

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i see you means so, that it your view to already enough is, that only because I one Posting auslasse and You code mood vermutest, I the Übel of XProfan be, where one glad his must, possible not hereon staid to have.

there can You too otherwise which psychological Tricks assume Dietmar, alike How You, the turn - the remaining insulting and won't rather.

and there you with the the "offiziellen Supportforum" moving - would like I again communicating, what imho ohnehin always ambulation and give and famous was:

Weder Roland, yet I, are the opinion, that one forsaking the official Supportforums of Roland [...]

vorteilhaft would.

the bring still too garnichts. for either is it still plenty angenehmer and sorgenfreier, if one beständiges einheitliches always same funktionierendes system existing (Rolands), and a other, one zusätzliches, as "Spielwiese for Fortgeschrittene" with integrally others Provisos, where we yet simply (almost) everything do and let can, what our XProfan-marrow begehrt.

an Schäu, The Roland having could, because it to of my Time time Diskrepanzen given, clutching from of my visibility between me and Roland from different Found not.

iF, you have faith I a correctly. large Scheißfehler made: you have it without one word on the community made. me wundert it sincere not, that itself any drüber excite, if Forum so looks, as be it like a chart house in itself zusammengefallen. at least a Headline "Baustelle" had viewed, that you something To our all well vorhast and our life bereichern want. still instead of irgendeinen Info on your Tätigkeiten have you got it in all still and stückchenweise began. the whole gezanke had with a set vermieden go can, pity eigendlich.

in the meantime have I a "rechte Page " in the Forum, The ironischerweise empty.

@Frank

Ne bolle kölsche jong, jo...

Please not insulting go !!!
i'm "Düsseldorfer"

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Frank
Abbing

Yes Horst...

RGH

Dietmar horn

I try whom beginning all Übels from of my visibility time short chronologisch aufzudröseln.

in the others Thread ("Nullposter ...", against end):

11.11.2008, 14.23:
Dietmar horn

and here in this Thread:

11.11. 2008, 17.23:
Dietmar horn

from nem designed reason or Betriebsunfall? by me diving The rights Page not.
I seh straight: too The left not. as if only the mittlere Frame loaded becomes...

<...>

so, and How must the one Außenstehender zwangsläufig grasp?

I see! now becomes me some on whom Missverständnissen klarer. One klarer klassischer drop of voreiligen Schlussfolgerungen! (usually go from this material Kommödien knitted. ;) )

14:23 declared David, that it the area with the Mitgliederanzeigen suppress, circa Dietmar and Frank against To come.

what Dietmar evident not come along has: David has this first of all too very so Done. it fehlte in the rechten slot very only these Box, what The Funktionalität the Community in keinster point einschränkte. The remainder was yet complete present.

three hours later falls on, that rights and left slot are missing, there David - as we meanwhile know, with a more Umbau the Community began has, without the community beforehand above To informieren.

there Dietmar whom Zwischenschritt not knows and naturally neither white, what to that Wegfall the both Split led, reimt it itself cause and effect (as we now know but wrong) together and vermutet, that David well mad would (about which really?) and with seinem 14.23 erklärtem suppress the Mitglieranzeigen überreagiert had. thereupon becomes it well self something stinkig and äußert properly harsch its Unmut.

I knew whom Zwischenschritt and so fell my reaction on The missing Split something moderater from, because I hereon hinwies, that without Access to actually Postings one sinnvolles works with the Forum hardly possible would. and it lasting only short Time, To it mithilfe the Sprechblase first of all ansatzweise, then but - at least by me in the FF2.x - complete again went.

concise: no reason itself moreover into Haaren To lying, but one reason, Perhaps prospective less voreilige Schlüsse To wander, and others because of eigener guesses nothing Böses To assume ... and already none public. vapor let off can too differently without whom remainder the world To frighten.

Greeting
Roland

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Jörg
Sellmeyer

with a more Umbau the Community began has, without the community beforehand above To informieren.

this is too the only, I with this action bemängele. the übliche Baustellenschild and the excitement would To avoid been.
These extremen Reaktionen, in them iF same the tore off the whole Community unterstellt becomes, are with though one puzzel.

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