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p.specht

regularly diving in diversen Forums The question on, wieviele users/inside of XProfan "eigentlich noch" existieren or. program. Interessanter point come such informations presently particularly from the purebasic-corner. I suspect, that the program in this Language To verengter tolerance lead.

Dass The Besucherzahl in this Profan/XPSE-Forum here (i.m.h.o.) sägezahnförmig between 230 and 295 swaying, can me hoping, that it still about 65 XProfan-Programmer gives. or at least 45, zieht one The PHP-Interssierten ex. Hinzu kämen geschätzt yet 30 - 40 autonomously arbeitende users.

One kurzer Info the Betreiber, whether I there complete moreover lie, would helpful with the Beantwortung the (gradually onerous werdenden) Fragestellung.
in the übrigen would I the opinion the others Forenbesucher To this Topic heavy interested.
greeting
 
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12/06/20  
 



of my opinion to Divisionen in the mittleren kommastelligen area.

I for my part program with XProfan as well as with all others Programmiersprachen almost each day on tollen Things, in so remote it my Time allows what about me come sooner not at all afterwards, all programs/ Source To post, but take me solid to, this nachzuholen

one ought to presumably not any numbers verwürfeln, in the hope, from it weitreichende/ belastbare/ sinnvolle Erkenntnisse To obtain, How z.B. "260 indicated Besucher" or XYZ Seitenaufrufe, Registrationen, Downloads, new Posts.

self The Betrachtung of such indicated ("nur") as "Index" and judgement the relativen Abweichungen, can well sooner only short Zeiträume and/ or The "Beschaffenheit the Außenwelt" describe as The the "Inneren".

More Online- XProfan could z.B. too only mean, that "Google" its Ranking changed hat; More new Posts could z.B. only mean, that The gängigsten Problems velvet Solution badly auffindbar/ abrufbar sind; More XProfan-sales could z.B. only mean, that a journal campaigned has etc.

of my opinion to (How already supra/ eingangs written) there very a great many XProfan. (The most of it having too ever a Version of Profan²/XProfan)

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12/06/20  
 




p.specht

Oje, we're already with 0,5 Programmierern? there can only I meant his...

"It´s gettin´ lonely in the saddle since the horse has died ???"
 
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12/06/20  
 




Manfred
Barei
No, i'm too still in the process.
work to Time in a proposition for my firm to that manage and create of UVV-Prüfbefunden.

Greeting from the Heath
 
XProfan X2
Zu wenig Wissen ist gefärlich, zu viel auch.(XProfan X4) | Win 10 Pro 64 | Win7 Ultimate 32/64 | AMD FX-8320, 16GB, GeForce GT 630 |
12/06/20  
 




Michael
W.
you see still under:

56 Views
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to 119 mins.
today (09:54)
today (05:01)
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its means still something go.

"It´s gettin´ lonely in the saddle since the horse has died ???"
Steig circa on Elektro...
And if The Steckdose missing - Querdenken
(the many Pupse-lighters, Mentos-Cola Enthusiasten, ... irgendwer becomes already what find, the helps)
 
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System: Windows 8/10, XProfan X4
Programmieren, das spannendste Detektivspiel der Welt.
12/07/20  
 



p.woodpecker (06.12.2020)
Oje, we're already with 0,5 Programmierern?


per resident*!

*) which country would fit?
 
12/07/20  
 




p.specht

hmmmmm ... means Intuition instead of irgendwelcher numbers? would be me really very entgegenkommen, would but no valide Schätzungsgrundlage for a response on the ever often recurring question. here only one moderates example:

Zit.: "Es would time interestingly To experienced How many people at all yet with XProfan program."

my response was no Iota rather: 'Es would "auch mal" interestingly To experienced, How many people "eigentlich" "überhaupt" "noch" with purebasic "wirklich" program!´

I bedaure this outbreak, and will be me to Senkung of my Blutdrucks for too entschuldigen. an reasonable, plausible response I will without Your Mitwirkung but not find can...
greeting
 
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12/07/20  
 



thereby might The question "wie many users/inside of XProfan "eigentlich noch" existieren or. programmieren" only Schätzantworten produzieren, as long as this nobody with safety know or at least ansatzweise somehow to determine can.

goes it you therefore, a "Formel" to rating To formulieren? which factors ought to tappt im dunkeln your opinion to include? which Auswertungen can I moreover procure?
 
12/08/20  
 




p.specht

I try, a undertow. Delphi-investigation  [...]  zusammenzubringen. it has itself since ca. 1963 bewährt, Votings under Fachleuten To make. The entstehende story has nachweislich bewährt (large exception of it are Wahlumfragen: The lying regularly roughly moreover, presumably because of clients-interests). 

"Wir create the. is finally alternativlos!"
 
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12/08/20  
 



Z.B. bid Date (Seitenbetreibern) a nomination, How (often) Page(n) into Date-Ergebnissen gelistet/ viewing watts(n) and How often therein clicked watts:



Dou you mean something like?

 
12/08/20  
 




p.specht

Guter Info, thanks!
 
XProfan 11
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simply communicating, if You yet others Auswertungen for meaningfully hold/ benötigst.

If one circa complicated Interpretationen the etwaigen values however not drumherum comes, is it sure circa so tougher, in "Datenmengen" not something To discern, what z.B. ("nur") of/ one (conscience/ "eigenen") "Erwartung" corresponds to.

additionally bestünde too yet The Possibility, that one one Program writes, that The values of stats.XProfan.net  [...]  "aufzeichnet" ( be it  [...]  ) what about me can there also gladly yet further "Sensoren" implementieren.
 
12/08/20  
 




Alibre
i'm since 1995 still fleissig thereby.
for my needs is XProfan something of best!
best Regards,
André
 
XProfan X4
PRFellow für ProfanX4 -> Das wär was!
12/08/20  
 




Helmut
Dewes
I can me André only anschliessen. for me is the simple deal in different Databases important.
 
12/08/20  
 




Martin
Kempf
I for my part work daily with the both Applications, The I with XProfan prepares have and entwickle The Applications too as always moreover. application 1 is a Branchensoftware for my small Malerbetrieb, The now since 9 years daily to that employment comes. contains Databases in the DBase and Firebird-stature, customers, Leistungen, colleagues, working hours, projects, Objects, Aufmaße and material. with Importmöglichkeit for Datanorm-Files the manufacturers and Exportfunktion for Onlinefrankierung with eingeblendeten Sender and Empfängeradresse. with Kalenderfunktion and Reminder, Warenein- and Ausgangsbücher and pressure of Monatstabellen for Steuerbüro to that Kontieren.
The second application is for the Massive Multiplayer Onlinegame Eve-Online, a Weltraumsimulation The since many years as Sandbox runs and with the around The watch around the 20.000 player online together play. here have I diverse Importfunktionen for Ingamedaten and Auswertungen for my production and sales...
From therefore: On that it XProfan yet gaaaanz long give!
 
12/08/20  
 




Walter
too I program furthermore keen with XProfan and have in the meantime over 20 teils small Tools, teils but too around the 10000 Lines long Programs employment.
was already with the Version 3.2 thereby, then though after a jahrelangen interval first again V8, freeprofan well then X4.
 
12/08/20  
 




Georg
Teles
be too since XProfan 8.0 thereby, Have me currently one small lab zusammengebaut and Löten started - the cost too some on Time but program yet busy with XProfan X2/X3/X4.
 
XProfan X2
TC-Programming [...] 
XProfan 8.0 - 10.0 - X2 - X3 - X4

12/08/20  
 




rumfruggel
be since the Version 7.5 thereby.

after Frank Abbing explained, that now mobile tools without windows whom market and the working day rule was for me clear, itself of XProfan slow To verabschieden. I had with ernsten purposes in a thoroughly good Desktopprogramm worked, that too to that buy offered go ought to. objectively is for the finished Program none More enough want present. for the windows-Desktop PC Top. but the is in the cellar. All other benefit others software on mobilen Geräten. Since I a couple thoroughly small good Spieleideen have for mobile tools have, everybody can try could umzusetzen, werd I of XProfan verabschieden must. and me on android umorientieren. clear is it very sorry. I love XProfan and The Comunity. my Desktopprojekt have I then only yet for me private ready geschustert. for me is it enough. becomes here and there another little correct. and the power too correctly. Fun. XProfan is marktstrategisch depended been. and verkommt to Nische To to Unbedeutsamkeit. the was but abzusehen. One Program must on the market stay. At the latest as clear was, that the mobilen tools without windows dominieren had one begin must, XProfan for android To daptieren. means whom Source in android compailieren to. Approaches hierfü there were Yes time. without success. Schade. i was so optimistic. the would a riesen thing been. there would I immediate again thereby. and many new Programmierbegeisterte hätten XProfan do number two can. my Desktopprogramm that I under XProfan erstellte, becomes But yet such a long time give, How I professional and private with WindosPCs hantieren will be. and is well yet ne whole while To ehwig his. there my Profisoftware now times the Windowsbasis need.
 
12/08/20  
 




p.specht

Infinity-profane was already a crazy idea, is correct. but The company-Restriktionen of Date were eindeutig glatter Machtmissbrauch. Schade around the many work, those plugged watts. For this will Date now with Huawei a Konkurrenten einhandeln - stupid run, Amis!

with XProfan has the but not directly something To do - PCs there Yes yet enough, and through Homeschooling and Homeoffice go tappt im dunkeln currently again explicit upgraded! paradox: Corona as chance?
 
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12/09/20  
 



Heisst not thereabouts, that "Suppe" seldom so hot eaten becomes, How tappt im dunkeln cooked watts?

XProfan runs on all windows-versions, but even long ago on Linux (WINE is mtlw. "normal"), but whether "Android" it yet long "macht" where Desktop-Linux slow on The Smartphones comes...

On one PinePhone-Smartphone walk XProfan-programs already.

i'd say no worry: XProfan won't "weniger" and it'll (furthermore) on increasing many system to that program used (go).
 
12/09/20  
 




Erasmus.Herold
Hello together.

XProfan is for me next to PHP The Programming-Language of my first electoral.
what itself so under windows stemmen can, is unbeschreiblich.

I have many proposition in the area Logistik (Wareneingang, Warenverfolgung, Warenausgang), RFID (kontaktlose Warenerfassung and Documentation via Funk) and POS (Kassensoftware) so umsetzen can. Übrigens, too The new adjustments with respect to TSE (Zertifizierung for cash registers) ran free from problems.

Wish would I me as always More communication via networking / internet (z.B. The Possibility from XProfan directly a remainder-API interface address to).

Greeting - Erasmus
 
12/09/20  
 




rumfruggel
Yes naturally becomes it yet each crowd windows-PC-user give. but circa itself on the market with a own Program To insist, bräuchte one plenty, plenty More Windowsnutzer. and this market shrink stätig. whether it android in 10 years yet considerable give becomes? in a? but in the momentum reicht it from, itself whom Marktanteil anzuschauen. and one can see, How heavy android on mobilen Geräten today is. XProfan has its Nischenberechtigung. would have been one it somehow hinbekommen too for android programs develop to, had one a riesen Games- and Anwendermarkt erschließen can. Volles capability. software for sale is utterly heavy. for windows today almost unmöglich and futile. The reach is at selling now time definitive. I have so some ideas for smaller ones mobile Games. gladly - very gladly - had I The in XProfan develops.
 
12/09/20  
 




p.specht

an manner WINE for Android should since ...
momentum time: straight something like found:  [...] 
Kennen apparently only Specialists!

but stay we first time at Topic:
it shining circa reaches to go, The in the core utterly long-term steady stay should (20 years and More), but nevertheless in details ongoing adjusted go must (zB because of rechtlicher Changes). For this shining Profan²/XProfan created been To his. I know no Programming-Language, so long Codekompatibilität gewährleistet has. Braver Ackergaul, sozusagen!

I suspect means, that it thoroughly a strong, autarke Gemeinde of XProfan-Programmierern gives, which but long-term only obscurities rühren. who itself now concerned feel and here random reinschaut: Hinterlass still too time one Lebenszeichen!
 
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12/09/20  
 



WINE runs on Android, rather but on gerootetem Smartphone there otherwise hardly joy aufkommt.

and even if I already already here and there erwähnt having: Infinity-Profan I will (as well as any others half-way sinnvollen projects) finish what about me have very good Reasons for, why I it not simply finish could and forever gehindert watts. there "Infinity" later but not only for Android virtual is separate in principle later "überall" runs, remaining it as always one of my moreover anzugehenden projects very How XPSE (for native Profan).
 
12/09/20  
 




Michael
W.
Perhaps ought to to the not absolutely on Play-net curtain zwängen.

Aptoide, ApkPure and Co. or quite a Own Downloadstelle wären still too OK and so without whom constraint there Werbemüll incorporate.
 
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System: Windows 8/10, XProfan X4
Programmieren, das spannendste Detektivspiel der Welt.
12/09/20  
 



this is not the point, the "Zwang" existing indeed not and these neither part the Reasons for delays in the development.
 
12/09/20  
 




lange-jens
I program with Beidem, XPROFAN and PureBasic. latter particularly on the Linux-splint.
 
12/10/20  
 




Abigail
now Yes, is sure much correctly., I here yet reading could. I personally, as User the quite first hour, as Profan of Pearl on 1,44 Mb floppy disk offered watts, have the program never from whom eyes lost and over ands over again 'geupdated', circa my own small Applications To improve. I had never Verkaufsabsichten so, separate have only always attempts, for me measured geschneiderte Applications to create, The I so or only with very plenty More money had buy can. of 'fit halten' as regards Programming time integrally foreseen. i am sure, that it yet many others so goes, The self try, Problems To solve and not the Simplicity halber on finished Solutions zurückgreifen want. These 'stillen Benutzer' are but well How I usually too ältere school term, because (to that example) who wants today another management its LP / CD collection benefit or quite program, if it To dwell quite no More has, because it everything in the Cloud has, if too in schlechterer quality and the management same included becomes? unfortunately becomes these Auslagerung of their own Gehirns in any Clouds increasingly wax and Corona becomes the sure yet a gehörigen Wachstumsschub miss out on, so that Profan sure to that extinction doomed is. unless one successor found becomes, the from joy on the thing Profan furthermore develops and anbietet.... from commercial Found we Profan probably the next generation unfortunately not überdauern.
 
12/10/20  
 




JogiLeipzig
I had then Profan45 random in a Zeitungsladen in Dessau discover,
as i on the train to Leipzig Waiting had, since then have I always newer versions down loaded. I have my new computer again zurückgegeben, because it only yet regularly abstürzte what about me on my money were. Currently have I because of whom Weihnachtsbasteleien no Time, me with Profan To keep busy, there the old boy computer, whom I once more activate have and the always slower becomes, particularly because of E-Mail and so, be but nevertheless yet fan of Profan. Regards Jürgen Leipzig

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12/10/20  
 



Ecki has a E-Mail gesendet:

Ecki
(...) I answer here and you are so kind and position whom Text to there, where it hingehört. thanks

Hello, Yes, I program yet, with XProfan X4. The buy of/ one Profanversion with PEARL (with manuals) was then my Entry into Profan-Programming. which Version the was, white I do not More.

The Programmiererei having Höhen and depths. I faith, as it windows 8 given, was my frustration big. much funktionierte not. I have everything vernichtet and wished nothing more so concern!

Profan lying me therefore, because I with the tailor CPC started having in Basic to program. too in Maschinensprache (Assembler) have I with the CPC one Program prepares, which erased Files again visible made.
this only beforehand!

then be I again with XProfan boarded and I a couple small programs for me prepares. now be I thereby, a Finanzmanager to program, the 'Offline' my accounts manages.

I had namely always a known Finanzmanager uses, though only Offline. For this was it really not made. Also, if one not aufpasste, having one again Abo on the neck. the needed I for my Offline-Transactions not. one could a ältere Version long years benefit.

have too for my son a Kostenabrechnung for Architekten prepares. Since I too long for needed, has it itself these self in Python program.
I wanted to me not any more in Python einarbeiten.

Sometime have I here time my old posted. for a Hilfsprogrammierei have I time of Roland a Profan-Version as gift get.

the I now make, becomes well the latest Programmiervorhaben in my life his. me fehlte always one tidy manuals. Schade, that Dietmar horn not any more living. its Lehrbücher are öfters very helpful, just as How the XProfan-manager. unfortunately go tappt im dunkeln now not any more fortgeführt. moreover must one Yes Time and Programmiererfahrung in XProfan own. and who has yet Both?

there's for me To little Information or. Examples To Controls u.ä. Things.
 
12/11/20  
 




p.specht

thanks for Your recent Posts - altogether very interestingly. there's Yes still active XProfan-Enthusiasten!

too by me having on my demand users of my to ca. 14 years written Bestellsystemsoftware interest on further Updates bekundet. Since I but from the Branche lane be and the then saved meanwhile The large Pensionierungs- and Geschäftsaufgabewelle running, would The cost-distribution very tight.

interestingly was The Forderung, The Bedienbarkeit so simply To hold How then: Jeweils maximum 3 large farbcodierte Buttons, large well lesbare Font with eindeutigen terms, Mausbedienung too for 80jährigen mithelfenden grandfather slight possible - evident was my damaliges concept in guter recollection stayed. moreover belong markante Signaltöne, in future Perhaps too Sprachausgabe. "Seniorengerechtheit" becomes künftig anyway one always gesuchteres feature - with the XProfan points could?

greeting
 
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12/13/20  
 




p.specht

Zit. iF: WINE runs on Android, rather but on gerootetem Smartphone there otherwise hardly joy aufkommt. Zit. end

I suspect, from Geschwindigkeitsgründen? Gerootetes Smartphone, means the, by a Sicherheitslücke Admin-Access to whom ARM-processor receive and programs in ARM-Assembler perform? I thought Yes, WINE power very the? and: is the with Date without Kriminalisierung possible (at that iPhone counts the quasi as burglary, though it outbreak (Jailbreak) called becomes)?

I thought Yes too, Android be plenty viruses-safer, but what must I there reading:
Date closes dangerous holes in Android 8.0 - 11: [...] 

again nothing?
 
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12/14/20  
 




Tango
I program since ca. 3 years with xProfan. have with x3 started and on X4 updated. for me The yet best Programming-Environment. have before in freeBASIC and Visual Basic program and integrally former on the C64 and Amiga. The advantages of xProfan are The speedy Results everybody can to achieve can. hardware address is right simply. GPS-Dongle evaluate or rfid-Tags inquire is too right simply. would be me in FB and VB still very heavy fallen. too The Programming in OpenGL, what in others Languages plenty Tipparbeit means, goes super simply and has since the last windows Update a Geschwindigkeitsschub of well 100% experienced. too the one xProfan simply standalone, means of USB-Stick started can is splendid. so can I, I often between two Haushalten pendle, with of my girl-friend program without ihren PC zumüllen To must. there's me The VB.NET Community Suite The several Gigabytes on data installs simply To powerful
program make I from reinem pursuit and because I a Riesen Fun on it have. commercial purposes have I thereby never had.

i'm quasi of/ one the still Programmer in the background the hardly auffällt and itself occasionally time a Tipp fetch. i think, there be I do not on my own. I hope simply the me xProfan another very long Time receive remaining. The Community, even if tappt im dunkeln Perhaps not gigant is. she has but always one open ear and is additionally durchweg kind. sure could one xProfran yet circa some items strain or improve. but then becomes it too to a schwerfälligen Monster. i'm In any drop very happy so. and about graphic: my Diashow in OpenGL in the RetroStyle with the many Sprites Scroll bar and Starfield-parallax-scrolling - the had I do not so simply in VB, C#, C++ hinbekommen.
 
12/21/20  
 




RudiB.
I must here "Tango" utterly right give. XProfan is simply, überschaubar, slight To understand and not überfrachtet. have me to years time with Delphi "LAZARUS" engage. Schwere Kost.....but for all diejenigen The not too plenty Time and have nevertheless program would, and then too yet Erfolgserlebnisse having would, then is XProfan the ideals. and the "Erfolge" can itself thoroughly very positively from the life one small Programmierers work out. observe myself..... glad christmas on you any....
 
XProfan X4
Xprofan X4
Rudolf Beske / München

Hardware: NB Intel I9 - 16GByte RAM
12/23/20  
 




p.specht

thanks for your Posting. it answers The question of Kritikern, what XProfan particularly well can: Rasch joy make!
too you glad Festtage!
 
XProfan 11
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12/23/20  
 




RGH
p.woodpecker (23.12.2020)
thanks for your Posting. it answers The question of Kritikern, what XProfan particularly well can: Rasch joy make!
too you glad Festtage!


and very the was of beginning on The Zielsetzung!

i wish all glad christmas and a good Slip to 2021!

remaining well!

Greeting
Roland
 
XProfan X4
Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4
12/24/20  
 




Langer
too I belong sooner to the still Profan Programmierern.
started has everything with a Basic course during of my NVA Time 1987.
then on the KC85/4.
now program I already some years with Profan. After some Time with disengaged versions have I me sometime Profan 10 bought and be now with XProfanX4 arrived.
The palette reicht of some small and more "Helferlein" for work up to my jetzigen, quite grossen, proposition the signal - and Weichensteuerung for Modellbahn.
 
12/31/20  
 




Wilfried
Friebe
Yes The still Programierer. there belong so did i To.
started have I sometime time with 4,5.
well Yes now be I 75 years old, but one little programieren
make I still.
aide for EEP (train Exe professional).

i wish all yet a good Slip.
and remaining well.

Wilfried
 
XProfan X3
Board MSI B450M BAZOOKA CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700x 8 Core 3,7-4,2 GH 32 Gb Ram NVIDIA GeForce GTX 3060 12 GB Ram Window 11 Prof 64 Bit

Sun-Guru-Barebone CPU I7-9750H 16 GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce GTX1660TI 6 GB Ram Window 11 Hom 64 Bit

Profan 4.5 bis Xprofan 14
Ein frisch geschriebenes Programm hat meistens einen großen Fehler.Sollte man versuchen diesen großen Fehler zu beseitigen, hat man viele kleine Fehler "Grins"
12/31/20  
 




rumfruggel
p.woodpecker (09.12.2020)
an manner WINE for Android should since ...
momentum time: straight something like found:  [...] 
Kennen apparently only Specialists!


Yes - very this is the trouble on WINE. If I a App to that selling anbiete, has so well How none the Normalo-user Idea or buck, itself a Windowssimulator on his Handy/Tablet To install. additionally succeed the so well How keinem, The it attempts having. means useless. If one already something sell wants, must one it the Buyer too so simply How possible make. and a android-user wants its App in android. XProfan is a geniale platform to that program. unfortunately has it in the Haifischbecken the Sofwarebusines no chance. The market certainly the tender. and android is neither dead. so should Ford its e-car-software prospective with android operate. there's too none reason, Why android itself on longer visibility not the market insist could. it has windows verdrängt and runs on the most Handys/Tablets. and not grundlos. Schade, that it no Possibility gives, XProfan on android To adaptieren.

what naturally yet remaining, would one gamemaker, the directly androidspiele prepares. has Yes but unfortunately nothing more with XProfan to do. I finds really pity. XProfan mach riesen Fun. even because it so simply is. and its one deutsches product. the ought to time in the country the PC-Erfinders and the einst biggest Computerherstellers - Nixdorf - not forget. would we one own Betriebssystem develop, could any others box. including Apple.
 
02/05/21  
 




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