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Stefan
Landsberg
Hi,
I interest me very heavy for program, Have but except for one little scripten in the Konsole of XP none Schimmer of it.
I Have me jetz for Profan decided weils Yes soo simply his should, and white nevertheless not How and where I begin should.

1. should I XProfan Free or Profan² 6.6 take??? (what is the Difference)
2. Gibts any books or must one itself everything with Ner befehlsreferenz self procure???

first thing Program wished I something program what defined computer in the heimnetzwerk anpingt and then indicating whether these accessible are or not.
with cmd Have I the already hinbekommen (The batch File is in the attachment), but with profane white I garnich with which I begin should.

it would nice if your me help on could.

 
04/06/08  
 



 
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Stefan
Landsberg
Hi,
about Ping:
i'll me then well time a little bit in (X)Profan reading (and try) and then works the hopefully too, should Yes simply his.
whom Pingcode whom Rolf here[web]https://XProfan.com/thread.core?t=6378[/web] posted has find I right clear (for me as laymen).

about which Profanversion:
means so How I the jetz understand is the so.

-Profan² 6.6 is ne complete Version with all the trimmings as it tappt im dunkeln former to that buy given, is but something antiquated and there's not soviele command and possibilities.

- XProfan 9.1 is ne shareware Version, I know but not where since the einschränkungen lying (temporal begrenzung or funktionsbegrenzung?) !

- XProfan Free is integrally currently, is but in the codelänge terminable and its no compiler thereby (one can means no EXEn from its Programs make).
What the Script-Variante means white I do not so correctly..

So I white jetz Nich so correctly. which I take should. I wanted to already ne Version The to some extent currently is. I first nothing buy wants must I with einschränkungen hold compensate. but I white Nich on which einschränkungen I there einlassen should.
you have right, this is quite verwirrend. About a good recommendation with Begründung would I very glad (then can I enlich loslegen, i'm already integrally hot aufs program!!!! ) .
 
04/07/08  
 




Jac
de
Lad
so I see the too. Script means, that You your Program write, but not Maschinencode umsetzen can, How You already erwähnt have.

If you really program with Profan²/XProfan learn want, would I you still XProfan 10 Free recommend. the has of course The already erwähnten Einschränkungen, reicht but for beginning. though come You there over short or long not around the buy around, what but with 60 Euro (lie I there correctly.?) in the comparison To others Programmiersprachen one fairer Price is.
otherwise nimm ne ältere and fox you there mere. still The Neuerungen are utterly recommendable!!!

Jac
 
Profan² 2.6 bis XProfan 11.1+XPSE+XPIA+XPRR (und irgendwann XIDE)
Core2Duo E8500/T2250, 8192/1024 MB, Radeon HD4850/Radeon XPress 1250, Vista64/XP
04/07/08  
 




Dietmar
Horn
Hello Stefan,

I have To to ca. 2 years my (X)Profan-Programmierkurse for children and adolescent with Profan² 6.6 implemented (means already To windows-XP-times). and faith me, not only integrally at the beginning missing you there so well How none plenty. and for most things there were already to this Time DLLs with them one these Version vigorously strain could, z.B. the loading of Graphics in others Formaten as only *.BMP and much, much More.

clear - The actually XProfan-Version bid logischerweise More and komfortablere Opportunities, still without these Opportunities comes one ditto ans target, if it for the time being nothing cost must. because as Profan² 6.6 The latest Full Version was, went it indeed so.

The parents of my schoolboy would me NEN bird show, as they same at the beginning 60 Euro for a actually Full Version berappen should - means already to a Time, where yet none time festeht, ex the Sohnemann at all to that program born is.

with the Shareware Version are The gravierendsten Einschränkungen the Nichtfunktionieren the command Window Style and SetText, if I the right in recollection have. Also must You The with the SW-Version erstellten programs not release.

there's there too another Free Schulversion (X)Profan 7.5. SE (Scool-Edition). here exists The Einschränkung therein, that the commands Window Title not functions and so erstellte programs ditto not vermarktet go can. These SE-Version there free with RGH (whether the yet so is, the white I however not).

I personally would only yet with of/ one Full Version without Einschränkungen begin, even if tappt im dunkeln already something into years come is. with all others versions become You sooner earlier later on border prod, The your think about probably failure let go. the would pure Zeitverschwendung! One PKW-driver verschrottet its 5 years middle-aged PKW indeed not only therefore, because it of these type meanwhile already newer models gives. and finally drives neither eachone Hinz and Kunz Ferrari or Porsche, as long as it for the nötige Kleingeld to that fuel missing.

I faith hardly, that it with XProfan 10 or 11 erstellte programs gives, which one not too with Profan² 6.6 nachbauen could. naturally with little more hoisted and More API-Gewusel - but it is possible.

if it you first of all for a Ping-Program goes - for would Profan² 6.6 really already überdimensioniert, because the went if need be already with Profan² 3.3 or yet niedriger.

once You first time (x)profane breeze geschnuppert and the Syntax this Programming-Language understands and to some extent on it have, become You of it so quick not any more getting off. because a plainer To handhabende vollwertige windows-Programming-Language there yet world-wide not! and already none to that Price of 60 Euro!

Greeting
Dietmar
 
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Stefan
Landsberg
OK Dietmars argument has me immediate convincing!!!
THANK YOU.

I Have jetz both versions on it (Profan² 6.6 and XProfan Free) programmier then but time with Profan² 6.6 or rather said I try so to program.

with ask The I do not answer can contact I on you.
Is here ne correctly. super community. helpful and nice.
 
04/08/08  
 




Thomas
Freier
and i'm not clear, Why Dietmar not hereon hinweist: its MMJ-Qellcodesammlung [web]https://mmj.mxii.com/[/web] with over 1600 Examples. heard simply to profane 6.6² How the manuals.
 
Gruß Thomas
Windows XP SP2, XProfan X2
04/08/08  
 




Stefan
Landsberg
sound well, but by me becomes only ne php File to that donwload offered if I on The quellcodesammlung click.
(I speech of this Page: [...]  )
can someone Perhaps The ZIP append??? would super
 
04/08/08  
 




Christian
Schneider
attempt time whom Link: [...] 
 
XProfan 11| Vista(64) SP2
04/08/08  
 




Stefan
Landsberg
thanks,
but the is the XProfan manager.
meant Thomas not The Quellcodesammlung?!?
 
04/08/08  
 




Dietmar
Horn
look on our Homepage: [...]  and there in the Download Area.

Greeting
Dietmar
 
Multimedia für Jugendliche und junge Erwachsene - MMJ Hoyerswerda e.V.  [...] 

Windows 95 bis Windows 7
Profan² 6.6 bis XProfan X2 mit XPSE

Das große XProfan-Lehrbuch:  [...] 
04/08/08  
 




Stefan
Landsberg
I habs jetz of nem others pc gedownloaded.
I had everything correctly. made, but my downloadmanager having NEN trouble with the Page.
 
04/08/08  
 




Michael
Wodrich
The Download-manager get ausgesperrt - therefore. Can go ahead foot loading.

though I me with one so large Download too whom Download-manager herbeisehne.

Best wishes
Michael Wodrich
 
Programmieren, das spannendste Detektivspiel der Welt.
04/08/08  
 




Dietmar
Horn
I have no idea, who whom Download-manager Why ausgesperrt has. yourself trouble I not around the program the Vereins-Homepage - the make Thomas Z. and Sabine k.
i'll tappt im dunkeln on the friday time consult, whether to the not Change could.
 
Multimedia für Jugendliche und junge Erwachsene - MMJ Hoyerswerda e.V.  [...] 

Windows 95 bis Windows 7
Profan² 6.6 bis XProfan X2 mit XPSE

Das große XProfan-Lehrbuch:  [...] 
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