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Dietmar Horn | Hello together,
as past years showed, having many (X)Profaner Notes and suggestions to Weiterentwicklung ours jährlich stattfindenden Programmierwettbewerbes. often came such Proposals however always first, after the actually Wettbewerbszeitraum already began having and accordingly To Verunsicherungen with manchen XProfanern led.
here can your means now eure Proposals and ideas for future Competitions (means ex 2009) darlegen and account.
Sofern these Notes mehrheitlich Support find, can tappt im dunkeln in future Wettbewerbsausschreibungen einfließen.
because it known one thing the Unmöglichkeit is, with almost 1000 Community-members it always each individual right make to, go to the sort all eingegangenen Proposals The final decisions to Durchführung the each subesquent Wettbewerbes from the Wettbewerbs-Jury met.
any Notes to that 2009-it competition are To at the latest 31.10.2008 here To post.
Greeting Dietmar |
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Jörg Sellmeyer | its seldom, still this time voice I with Dietmar fully überein. The absolute Mindestvoraussetzung for Mitwirkung in the Jury - and be it only as minderes Stimmvieh - is the Verification. I would yourself too none spicy hereon, in the Jury mitzuwirken, there the one erhebliches measured on work mitbringt. Letztes year have I at least To some Programs my mustard submitted, and the fixes, what Dietmar already erwähnt has: it power a crowd work, one Program half-way in detail To testing and then yet To try, it objective To evaluate. who means its Posting as Jury do would like, can the integrally simply make, because it into jeweiligen Vorstellungsthreads these programs runterlädt, testing and its comment moreover abgibt. If then z. B. half-way sinnvolle Own Programmierfähigkeiten and the genuineness the person shown go, will The now existing Jury certainly forward, if someone says: i want Please too join! but so one this is undemokratisch, because with we-search-unserern-own-Pupsstar can any vote stops so did i for Unfug.
In of/ one thing would I Dietmar though contradict:
And then happens the iF time so one Lapsus,
the faith I namely not. i think the was a bewußte (and yet very erfolgreiche) provocation of iF, circa here time To see, who ready is, something To make. To my regret must I same moreover allude, that I it unfortunately don't can i'll me but at least The Einreichungen time runterladen and my Testeindrücke moreover to give away, in the hope, so The Jury something To support. and two prices I will too yet stiften
Greeting Jörg
I see:
time again typischer Schwachfug one pubertierenden Jugendlichen,
Soche spotting stops I as always for superfluously. In of/ one talk can something like quiet time place. there but written words always harder rüberkommen as spoken, and schwerer zurückzunehmen are, ought to one there everything avoid, what personal feelings unnecessary injure. |
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| Windows XP SP2 XProfan X4... und hier mal was ganz anderes als Profan ... | 01/18/08 ▲ |
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Hubert Binnewies | ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖHHHMMMMMMMM.....
after I this Thread time with mind red have (what too I do not always make...ash over my master)...be I to the Schluss come that I my Posting over The holding in a Boykott zurückziehe, widerrufe or anything else...
because i'm something noticed what yet here yet none seen has.
I make time a comparison whom eachone understand ought to, because in the Übertreibung lying The Demonstrative.
my daughter is mitlerweile 20 years, but too she was time in the nursery school and gambling with others Kindern in the sandbox. there heard one always : DAS IST MEIN FÖRMCHEN.......... NEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNN......DAS IST MEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSS....
what about me say : FALSCH!!!!!!....the Förmchen heard the nursery school, ergo has the nursery school too above To to determine who it get!!!!!!!!!!
and now time differently framed : JA Dietmar...in a point have You right, in the DDR widersprach The Gesellschaftsform (berichtige me if I wrong lie), the Marxismus, the government. in the Marxismus heard everything the Volke, ergo has too the entire people above To to determine and not only a few Diktatoren. but we life here in the Kapitalismus, means having diejenigen over The items To to determine them tappt im dunkeln belong.
No IF..... The competition shining of course evident you To belong there it here held becomes, but the isn't so.... (the following all which here over Abstimmungen or not Abstimmungen quarrel) To to Übergabe belong The prices whom friendly Spendern, and DIE having To to determine what with IHREN Preisen happens !!! SIE having To to determine who The Juroren are, SIE having too The regulate To to determine. The EIGENTÜMER the prices lay whom Kaufpreis solid (in this drop The performance and its rating)! and the Interessenten (possible Buyer) can decide whether it To valuable or not. therefore has of my unmaßgeblicher opinion to jegliche public collaboration over Verfahrensweise or Juroren in the Vorfeld Done. only and alone having The Stifter the prices above To find. it be because The Stifter the prices dispense this right, then is automatically IF (because it not only Betreiber this hervoragenden Community is separate too the EIGENTÜMER) derjenige the The regulate and Juroren festlegt, there it in the drop automatically to that owner the prices and is over its usage To to determine has.
Sorry my deutlichen words, but its ONLY my unmaßgebliche opinion. alike as here moreover decided becomes, i'll The regulate accept and thereafter deal and not any more above quarrel because my unmaßgebliche opinion is in this drop my Überzeugung.
Greeting Hubert. |
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| WinXP Prof, XProfan 9.1 Newbie
Ein kluger Kopf sagte mal: "Nach dem derzeitigen Stand der Technik ist es unmöglich Programme zu schreiben, die fehlerfrei laufen!" | 01/18/08 ▲ |
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Nico Madysa | could we not finally on a peaceful Solution some? for may part dikatorisch, but at least what Handfestes! I übernähme yes to gladly whom Juryposten, though traue I me the weder in things Kompetenz yet enough free time To. and the latest what we use can, are code Jury-Members, or?
@Hubert: yet had The Sponsoren cordial little this right the decision over the competition zurückgegriffen; and optimistic, How i'm, faith I, that the too The next years so his becomes. iF against has his right on Wettbewerbsgestaltung now ditto submitted: on The wicked Jungs, The its Wettbewerbsänderung (The admittedly in the good sake prepares been were - thanks for your almost unlimited Gedulf with us, iF! ) by the cacao pulled having, to see, How The now so clear come. i'm in the meantime with the opinion arrived, that we now first everything at middle-aged let should - and possible yet a new Juror find ( = a, the The thing voluntarily undertaking, otherwise might the little sense having...). so having we noh one year Time, here thoroughly over Scheindemokratie, good dictatorship and Perhaps over Improvements the Wettbewerbs To diskutieren.
PS: Verzeiht me my unqualifizierte Meinungsäußerung, but I Have as pubertierender Jugendlicher my loves Problems so, my opinion hinterm mountain To hold. |
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RGH | @Hubert:
SORRY, but I must you contradict. there's sure Competitions, The by the Sponsoren initiiert and therefore too certainly go, but the must not so his. there's too Competitions, The a person, Gruoppe and institution ausgeschrieben (and definiert) and be The to the known terms then Sponsoren search. with whom jährlichen, general XProfan-Wettbewrben tread I of course regelßig as Sponsor on (and is 2008 and 2009 presumably not differently his), beschränke my Einflußname but not more than as Vorschlläge, where I integrally aware very zurückhalte. If I as Sponsor a bestehende thing side, The me gefällt and the I for interesasant and meaningfully stops, contract I therefore not automatically the right, The thing umzukrempeln.
Greeting Roland (would be I duirch XProfan so plenty money earn, I of it a arena building let could, would I already for care, that they XProfan-arena hieße ... but whom interessiet already, How Arenen in Modellbahnanlagen hot ... ;) ) |
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| @Roland
(would be I duirch XProfan so plenty money earn, I of it a arena building let could, would I already for care, that they XProfan-arena hieße ... )
should we time together with Herrn Hopp vorstellig go ?
for not-Insider: mr Hopp is of/ one the Gründer the software-firm SAP, dwelling in ours sew - Walldorf - and is here in the perimeter as one very grosser Mäzen and Sponsor famous. [web]https://www.dietmar-hopp-stiftung.de/ger/preface.php[/web] |
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| then heister too yet Dietmar. |
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GDL | @Roland,
went XProfanbahnhof too? If it already a Siemensstation gives Why not too one XProfan Valley.
Hello Georg |
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| XProfan Valley - this is the subtitles the Community
Georg hats made up! |
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Christian Eichler | Dietmar horn
Dietmar hornDietmar, believe You Real, that itself any here announced User with iF verifizieren let ? time again typischer Schwachfug one pubertierenden Jugendlichen, if it sachliche Argumente auszugehen threatening. Sorry - but plenty More falls me moreover not any more one. out of, that I such nonsense never written having. but one kanns Yes try, integrally under the Motto: Irgendwas becomes already hängenbleiben! - see moreover supra in this Posting.
there schießt again of/ one on me Okay, I seh yes a, that not the Überargument was ... but if it first is, that ALLE vote can, and then comes The Einschränkung, that only any Überprüften vote can, then comes the, from of my Sichtweiße, very as Einschränkung rüber. if You understand, I say wants
time irrespective the forward line of Dietmar on me, must I say, I its Sichtweise the thing (unterdessen) größtenteils pieces.
Dietmar horn
If I iF would, then would I even another couple steps go on (integrally diktatorisch, How I now time tuned be) and z.B. Free Downloads and Postings only verifizierten members gestatten.
Okay, no free Downloads More... but if You the post of Posts forbid, then, so seh I that, go we not any more plenty strain. i'd, circa integrally sincere To his, not one Wildfremden my address & Co send, so I in a Forum join can, I do not know, white I Yes not at all participate can... Yes, steinigt me for testimony, Please, I habs earn
mfg Christian E
PS: @Dietmar: I have never (purposely) attempts, you the word in the mouth umzudrehen. |
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| Debian Lenny, Intel Celeron 2,8 Ghz, 768 MB Ram && Win XP Pro, Intel C2D 1,66Ghz, 2 GB Ram ... PROFAN² 6.6 | 01/18/08 ▲ |
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Hubert Binnewies | @RGH to that first: i see your Einwand, and your formulation to have You too completely right... your behaviour is the general public to More as Löblich, but not forced... How You already carryed out have goes it too so How I it described have, and if you The thing time from the others Page viewing : would you The terms the Wettbewerbes not fallen, would You too none Price stiften, what too so paraphrase can the if one customer on the cash-desk one tender power and it the vendors not gefällt, get the customer The merchandise not. Womit we again thereby wären the The regulate in this drop of a Entgegenkommen diktiert go......Gelle??....
but How so did i already already said i'll me above not quarrel!, i'll wait and see, I can 9Live indeed no new regulate dictate and the general public must there also not over The regulate vote.
and to that second : look you times the Postings to my completions on....are still integral freundlicher become...on my own the was is me already worth... and the power me already something zufriedener.
Greeting (too on The others)
Hubert |
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| WinXP Prof, XProfan 9.1 Newbie
Ein kluger Kopf sagte mal: "Nach dem derzeitigen Stand der Technik ist es unmöglich Programme zu schreiben, die fehlerfrei laufen!" | 01/19/08 ▲ |
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Nico Madysa | Booooh - you are Yes so manipulativ! |
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