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Dietmar
Horn | Hi,
with the abolition of command ex XProfan 11 has us Roland one integrally nice egg in that nest laid.
After my Experience functions several Units not any more ex s15, How z.B. Thread.pcu and plv.pcu: windows bring a Schutzverletzung and would like this trouble on Microsoft gemeldet know. To s14 klappte it however yet with the Units.
here dürften any Unit-Authors demand his, your recent Units umzuschreiben and XProfan 11 new To compilieren. whether the then naturally yet everything weitestgehend abwärtskompatibel To at least 8.0 remaining, becomes as Nächstes To testing his.
through these (of my opinion to still superfluous and futile) Befehls-Abschafferei becomes now well so many of/ one of us its jahrelang gehegten and gepflegten projects einstampfen or. not any more with the new Feautures of XProfan 11 weiterentwickeln can. somehow feel I in my trübsten fears confirm, that it with the couple Lines of/ one Profalt.inc now well still not done is, around the Abwärtskompatibilität beizubehalten. 
Greeting
Dietmar |
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Abbing | Well, I know already, why I of jeher a Dll always of/ one Pcu vorziehe...  |
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RGH | With the whom Units is in all Programmiersprachen so. simply neukompilieren and everything is OK, rewritten must naturally nothing go, separate not more than The PROFALT.INC eingebunden go. at that Compile the Unit is Yes again dre Precompiler active!
too in Delphi must I in eachone Version, The Borland go can, any my Units new kompilieren. therefore is it for me z.B. unerlässlich, of all in-laws Units too The Source code To own or me hereon To leave, that with the next Delphi-Version too The suitable Units included go.
(Bislang use I only Borlands JPEG-Unit without Source. the has well lizenzrechtliche Reasons, that Borland not whom Source mitliefern must. but i am sure, with the next Delphi-Version is too a freshly compiled JPEG-Unit thereby.)
Greeting
Roland |
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Jörg
Sellmeyer |
After my Experience functions several Units not any more ex s15, How z.B. Thread.pcu and plv.pcu: windows bring a Schutzverletzung and would like this trouble on Microsoft gemeldet know. To s14 klappte it however yet with the Units
there would it still time interestingly, to know, where The pair exit. Perhaps is it indeed only one popeliger Bug in s15.
If objectively only teh folks command rumzicken, reicht already a sinnvolle Order the Include/Pcu-Aufrufe.
means as allererstes The profalt.inc and then everything further. mere theoretical must then not time new compiled go.
my hint is, it's located on what anderem... |
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Dietmar
Horn |
means as allererstes The profalt.inc and then everything further. mere theoretical must then not time new compiled go.
and very the functions even unfortunately not - already from the theory since can not klappen.
simply neukompilieren and everything is OK,
this point piece of advice is m.E. naturally überflüssiger like a Kropf.
because if I whom Source the Unit not have, then falls with the the Neucompilieren unfortunately from.
And if the Unit-Author its Source had release want, then had it no Unit gebastelt, separate he had his Werk same as Inc published.
here turn the cat means unfortunately time again in the Kreise and bite itself into own tail.
Greeting
Dietmar |
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RGH | @Jörg: I must you unfortunately contradict. there at Compileren of/ one Unit Yes the Precompiler the jeweiligen Profan-Version active is, can it Yes not yet The Neuerungen the künftigen versions kennen. Daherwird it over ands over again vorkommen, that Units with künftigen XProfan-versions not walk. As I said: this is with XProfan now times not differently, How with all others Programmiersprachen, The Units use (z. B. Delphi).
If one whom Source the Unit has, compiled one it new. has is a Unit without Source, contact one itself means on its manufacturers and erbittet a new Version. (there most XProfan-Units of a nice Member this Forums stammen, the additionally to the Subscriptions-Testern heard, might it no trouble his, very zeitnah To XProfan 11 too The suitable Units To get. ;) )
(in the Delphi-area is it mostly so, that Trials of Units without Source delivered go, with paid Full versions the View source though thereby is. the allows it the users, The Unit on new Delphi-versions anzupassen. - there Delphi not so abwärtskompatibel is, How XProfan, is the mostly with mühsamen Changes joined, and so it then nevertheless often effizienter is, the Update at manufacturers To ordern.) |
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 | @Dietmar: sooner less are it The command which in the Unit vorkommen, separate the stature the Unit. Ändert Roland in example intern BefehlsIDs then would The Zuordnungen not any more voices. amateurish said could a cls one exitwindows go. its still completely correctly the vorkompilierte Programmteile to that Compiler fit must, gewissermaßen expects the The architecture the whole. 
I have it unfortunately not yet geschafft z.B. The thread.pcu with x11 To kompilieren - but I had because not whom Source moreover already long ago posted...  |
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Dietmar
Horn |
but I had because not whom Source moreover already long ago posted...
Search time in your own Community to Thread.pcu, then become You check, that the not is correct. it be because, you have whom code since yesterday afternoon still and heimlich here somehow successful cache.
I have it unfortunately not yet geschafft z.B. The thread.pcu with x11 To kompilieren
and who should the because your opinion to create, unless the Unit-Author yourself?
Greeting
Dietmar |
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Dietmar
Horn | Hello together,
means if I To hierhin now only this Unit-story time one and one zusammenzähle, then shining it with the Abwärtskompatibilität of XProfan 11 now really unfortunately for good past To his!
example:
who as Programmieranfänger Internet umschaut, therefore on XProfan meets and the Freeware-Version Profan² 6.6, with XProfan-FREE or OGL-Basic first Experience collecting, the could I not time sie, that it to the buy the then actually XProfan-11-Full Version my could, one Rattenfänger aufgesessen To his. because by then having it itself on whom example- and demonstration-Codes orientiert, The with it by then with the Freeware klappten and it to Kaufentscheidung the actually Full Version led (demonstration-Codes from the Help-File, from ours XProfan-Community, from the MMJ-Quellcodesammlung, from my XProfan-manager - or where too always).
Why-wieso-and so ex XProfan 11 urplötzlich ältere command abgeschafft get or. go, the can I yet unfortunately yet always not so correctly. understand. anyway as long as not, How Profan² 6.6 Freeware is and as a manner Lockmittel serves, circa Neukunden with the Freeware under now not any more before bekanntgegebenen Einschränkungen bait To want, the actually Full Version To buy.
if someone malignant and XProfan-feindlich enough tuned would, then could it reasonable insist, that it with a such Lockvogelangebot under Vorspiegelung falser lowdown over the table pulled go should, ought to or. watts.
Info: I yourself be under no circumstance XProfan-feindlich tuned - even if I here occasionally time into couple apertured Wunden piekse ...
XProfan-FREE as Script Language is of my opinion to a similar Mogelpackung!
because Nirgendwo standing written, that in this Mogelpackung already with 1000 Codezeilen and maximum 500 variables per type the end the Fahnenstange access is. as i the found out having, have I XProfan-FREE aside laid - I can means not say, what there under the Haube evtl. yet moreover on Einschränkungen cache his could (except The fehlende data base-Support).
(in the Delphi-area is it mostly so, that Trials of Units without Source delivered go, with paid Full versions the View source though thereby is. the allows it the users, The Unit on new Delphi-versions anzupassen. - there Delphi not so abwärtskompatibel is, How XProfan, is the mostly with mühsamen Changes joined, and so it then nevertheless often effizienter is, the Update at manufacturers To ordern.)
Sorry, Roland - but here seem You time again Äpfel with pears vergleichen To want!
The XProfan-apple cost in the actually Full Version ca. 60 Euro. The Delphi-pear cost in the actually Professional-Full Version ex ca. 4000 Euro up (see Borland-Site Internet).
with XProfan is Roland to nunmehr ca. 15 years angetreten, circa a really simply To erlernende real windows-Programming-Language To erschaffen (means first of all without coercive OOP-Kenntnisse with Programmieranfängern assume To must). these meanwhile really lovely been successful.
I yourself having beginning the Nineties years right intense in TP, BP, C, TPW, Delphi and Assembler program and then already Programmierkurse with Kindern and Jugendlichen implemented. after I Profan² 3.3 discovered, polte I mean Programmierkurse of now same on these new and utterly Programmieranfänger superleicht To erlernende profane windows-Programming-Language circa. and thereby is it for may part from Überzeugung to date stayed!
I could here zig- or Perhaps even hundreds names of (former, but too actually) Kindern and Jugendlichen name, The during yours first Programmierversuche on such things reingefallen were - How with Paperback for 5 DM or now 5 Euro on the supermarket-Ramschtisch: Delphi learn in 11 hours, etc.
of my opinion to is Roland on the best ways, itself with XProfan 11 The further (world-wide!) currency of XProfan yourself To dirty!
The Mogelpackung namens XProfan-FREE shining dbzgl. of my opinion to unfortunately only one first beginning in these direction been To his!
Why because not finally XProfan-FREE as Script Language (means whom actually Interpreter) and without Kompromisse as Freeware - means without jegliche Einschränkungen? just as How z.B. our iF-David already to Monaten angeregt having?
Greeting
Dietmar |
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RGH | In all Kürze:
1. with Profan² 6.6 erstellte programs can free from problems too under XProfan 11 weiterverwenden. there these Version already entire Operators supported and Beginner certainly the eingängigeren Operators in lieu of the quick clear werdenden Operatorenersatzfunktionen used, need tappt im dunkeln not even The PROFALT.INC. with the PROFALT.INC (and ggf. the Set(MessageMode,0) and Set(TrueColor,0) at the beginning) walk self The Example of Profan² 2.x yet under XProfan 11. (and the Unit-trouble having these people neither, there it then yet quite no Units in Profan² given.)
2. XProfanFree is for object, for it created watts, More as enough. its and remaining The bislang best Batch-Language for windows, with the self complete 3D-Games written go can. and the 1000 Lines as boundary are wrong. (what I very as Limits used have, should I daheim nachschauen, I here on the job whom Source of XProfanFree not exist have.)
Greeting
Roland |
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RGH | ... and 3. if someone so kind is and me under XProfan 10 compiled Unit (with View source velvet Aufrufprogramm) mail, The under XProfan 11 not any more functions, can I Yes time look, whether I there yet what turn can. whom it To s14 yet klappte, stand The chances not soooo badly, that it ex s17 again weg could.
alas Yes: exit the trouble in the Interpreter on or at Compilieren ode quite in both Make?
BTW: The Befehls-Abschafferei (it watts Yes nothing really abgeschafft) was weder futile yet unnecessary, separate ermöglichte first some the Neuerungen. additionally is it niemandem verwehrt, for its middle-aged projects furthermore XProfan 10 or quite Profan² 6.6 To benefit.
The ursrüngliche Profed32 becomes to date with Delphi 2 compiled, there it a manufacturers the there verwendeten Units not any more gives (and the vorliegenden Sourcen under neueren Delphi-versions not any more kompilieren let) and presumably too in Forums inszenierte choleric Anfälle it not moreover bring would, its Geschäftsbetrieb again aufzunehmen. ... and the, obwhl I for Units More money payd have, as some XProfan-users since its first Profan²-Version. ;)
Greeting
Roland |
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Jörg
Sellmeyer |
@Jörg: I must you unfortunately contradict. there at Compileren of/ one Unit Yes the Precompiler the jeweiligen Profan-Version active is, can it Yes not yet The Neuerungen the künftigen versions kennen.
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