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2 Netzteile 1 motor

 
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Houston,

1 Gleichstromgetriebemotor (max. 12V 3A) functions super with a Notebooknetzteil.

2 this Notebooknetzteile are present and the motor should itself according to into Steckdose gestecktem power adapter turn - The Netzteile are gegenpolig on the motor montiert.

If only 1 power adapter montiert is, functions the motor but are both Netzteile montiert then klickert only the each bagged power adapter instead of whom motor To turn.

I have of Elektr(on)ik hardly Idea, vlt. registered a manner Sicherung in the each bagged power adapter a "Kurzschluss".

this functions naturally:

power1 -> power adapter1 (+-) -> motor turn right
power1 -> power adapter1 (-+) -> motor turn left
power2 -> power adapter2 (+-) -> motor turn right
power2 -> power adapter2 (-+) -> motor turn left

however not working:

power1 -> power adapter1 (+-) ___ motor turn not power adapter1 power only each second quiet "klick".
---------- -> power adapter2 (-+) /

and not:

---------- -> power adapter1 (+-) ___ motor turn not power adapter2 power only each second quiet "klick".
power2 -> power adapter2 (-+) /

self-evident are never zeitgleich both Netzteile bagged, It's all right only therefore by Einstecken the jeweiligen Netzteiles The Drehrichtung To to determine.

I need well one manner 12V 3A- Y-Bauteil, that once of A power comes B zumacht or once of B power comes A zumacht so I both Netzteile simply behind this Bauteil gegenteilig on whom motor poland can.

Hülfe, what kind of Bauteil need I or. How becomes something like called?
 
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Thomas
Freier

this is the incorrect Relais! How should because the weg? Coil1 toggles left, Coil2 toggles right?
one needed one Relais with only of/ one Spuhle!!!
with the Relais remaining it in the Stellung and jumping not automatically back !!!!


ought to too no Broken leg his.
is even rather, if the Relais in the Stellung remaining and not automatically back jumping, then is z.B.: thrill on power adapter1= Rechtslauf or thrill on power adapter2= Linkslauf. The Schaltzustand is eindeutig.

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Detlef
Tussing
Why power your it so tricky

if You one 12V Relais (Conrad 503924 - 62) with 1 Wechslern nimst then functions the of 6V To 20V

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Thomas
Freier
is The simplest Solution with 1poliger Trennung and if The Haltespannung not unterschritten becomes. suitable Ralaisfassung moreover and iF must not even löten.
The 2polige Variante had we already and were us not sure, whether The Haltespannung under Last unterschritten becomes.
where iF any Schaltungsmöglichkeiten has, if it one Relais with two Wechslern erwirbt.
 
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Windows XP SP2, XProfan X2
06/19/10  
 




Detlef
Tussing
If the thrill under 10V sink dürften The Netzgeräte well überlastet his,
and not long hold up
 
Gruß Detlef Tussing
Windows XP, XProfan 10
06/19/10  
 



@Thomas: it functions integrally perfect and of course with such one Relais. of course is the Relais, which You me viewed had, only by order available - but Conrad gave me one ähnliches vorrätiges Relais with. (see Image)





there have I simply left the a power adapter and right under the others connected and it functions utterly How expects.



The both further rechten oberen Anschlüsse have I with the motor joined, once +- and once -+.

two Listviews I say?! perfect! solely, if I the left power adapter abschalte, toggles the Relais not immediate separate first to 6 sec "zurück" - certainly because the power adapter its power not loswird or. because except the Relais no consumer connected is.

These period of time disturbing in my Anwendungsfall not - the large goal that I so steuere needed eh many sec. nevertheless, what would one this guter consumer?

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Paul
Glatz
lamp?
 
06/22/10  
 



white not, must Yes whom power not entire abzapfen and shine or geräuschen ought to it neither. OK, lamp could one "einpacken".
 
06/22/10  
 




Stefan
Schenk
Hi,
habs you in Club Programmiersprachen3 declared [...] 
mfg stefan
 
06/22/10  
 



Ah, class!

Übrigens, in the Community save we with Querverweisen/ left not - can anytime so many left on (rechtskonforme) contents/ pages settle How You it for reader as meaningfully erachtest.

(have Your Posting simply a Direktlink enclosed ^^)

I Search nevertheless whom optimalen consumer, vlt. one dimmbarer resistance or so because I in this drop with warmth sooner "kein" trouble have. Dimmbarer vlt. therefore, so I optimal take on can between "Relais toggles noch" and "Abschaltung".
 
06/22/10  
 




Thomas
Freier
If no bauart bedingte Abfallverzögerung is, then time with Freilaufdiode testing: [...] 
 
Gruß Thomas
Windows XP SP2, XProfan X2
06/22/10  
 



I consider grade, whether I do not simply to that Relaisschalten one explicit schwächeres power adapter take, Have here yet so one 5V 300milli.

might I vlt. the 2. then spare bleibende strong power adapter with the first power adapter contact for More power in the motor simply because I + on + and - on - knubble? ^^ (or would quite the Relais schmilzen?^^)
 
06/22/10  
 




Stefan
Schenk
Yes, You could because power so theoretical raise.
Since but the power from the resistance and the thrill yields,
becomes you not plenty bring, there You of course More power rausziehen
could before what broken goes, You the but not can, there You
not so beinflussen can.
If you want the itself the motor faster turn should one first
time know what kind of Gleichstrommotor you have. means whom very.
I go simply time of a permanent Errekten universal DC-motor from,
there can you a faster Drehzahl by a höhere thrill achieve,
but the can I you not say whether the your Netzteile verkraften.
For this müsstest You of 1NT + aufs 2NT - and of 2NT + To your motor
(means over Relais hold) and then back to that 1NT -.

The thrill for Control (chid of Relais) could you
too from the equal power adapter take, simply best with a
Vorwiderstand around the thrill down To catch.

mfg stefan

EDIT OT: Thomas suitor Have time ne ask and of course
with take off one Program have you got The Zeichnungen
for Schaltungen made?
 
06/22/10  
 




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