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Jac
de
Lad

Schade, but is Nich so bad, the was Yes circa my Laziness To support!

Jac

Profan² 2.6 bis XProfan 11.1+XPSE+XPIA+XPRR (und irgendwann XIDE)
Core2Duo E8500/T2250, 8192/1024 MB, Radeon HD4850/Radeon XPress 1250, Vista64/XP

04/25/06 ▲

Dietmar
Horn

Hello Roland,

if I on the Wünsch you what! for XProfan 10.0 (or then even first ex 11.0, or 13.0 [?]) ditto yet participate must, then would I me The following wish:

1. The Possibility the bedingten Compilierung.

2. Nativer Compiler for XProfan.

3. real Pointer-variables in lieu of the reaches (or. these Possibility additional and optional) to introduce.

4. One eingebauter Mini-Debugger (by Compilerschalter, o.ä.), the at work out the Compilates vaguely The presumably fehlerbehaftete Codezeile indicating. i know yourself, that meanwhile one rudimentärer Mini-Debugger one strange-Autors included becomes, still this is m.E. dermaßen defective, that I this never again use would like (and therefore too except for Weiters not my Programmierkursen recommend will be).

5. finally once the many, many Syntax-Error from the official Helpfile Remove, which to that überwiegenden part already since Profan² 3.3 always and over ands over again dragged go. Dbzgl. there were in the past tense already several Notes (too of me) in Your RGH-Forum. still though meanwhile one strange-Author on Help-File mitwerkelt (so appear it me anyway), has dbzgl. except for smaller ones corrections to date not too much changed.

6. the of PROFAN.EXE interpretierte and the compilierte Program should itself finally bzgl. eventueller User-Programmierfehler at users identical behaviour! yet anyway (XPRF 9.1) is the under no circumstance always so.

7. after here since meanwhile 2 years on [...]

of David a integrally, integrally lovely XProfan-Community (not only for Programmieranfänger, and not only for schoolboy) created been and emerged is, in which itself derzeitig now already over 500 (X)Profaner evident right feel good - there would it still sicherlch not too much desires, if you on your own RGH- or. XProfan-HP this Engagement there (z.B. in the completely antiquated Link-list) and the actually Helpfile not only allude, separate this particularly on your official HP something deutlicher as yet into Vordergrund back would.

8. The here in the XProfan-Community arisen Online-Documentation heard of my Erachtens prospective without large If and but on each future XProfan-Full Version-CD!

9. of my opinion to can nowadys with XProfan without XPSE no zukunftsträchtigen programs (> 30000 or > 50000 Codezeilen) More write - already because of the in XPSE eigebauten genialen XPSE-Syntax-Checks. if You, the soon not hinbekommen should, whom Interpreter- and compiler-mode rather as in the past tense one after another vote to (what Prgrammierfehler by the XProfan-Users concerns), then should m.E. as quickly as possible one XProfan-editor since, in the XPSE at the outset already installed is, and welchem The XPSE-Opportunities ggf. optional To- or shorted go can.

10. Additional ought to next to XPSE absolutely at least too the appeal the XPIA of Frank Abbing in a new XProfan-editor integrate go. if one Beginner with Assembler (yet) not not plenty on the hat having ought to, then must it his tick with the CheckBox certain lines Yes not absolutely settle or. can the wegklicken.

a couple further Opportunities had I of course ditto yet, but I would me already integral glücklicher feel, if you The Time find would, circa by degrees at least first time some the of me here named suggestions work out to ...

Greeting
Dietmar

Multimedia für Jugendliche und junge Erwachsene - MMJ Hoyerswerda e.V. [...]

Windows 95 bis Windows 7
Profan² 6.6 bis XProfan X2 mit XPSE

Das große XProfan-Lehrbuch: [...]

RGH

[quote:7c5bd79e9d=Dietmar horn]if I on the Wünsch you what! for XProfan 10.0 (or then even first ex 11.0, or 13.0 [?]) ditto yet participate must[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
clear must You, the! but i'll it well not create, any Opportunities To erfüllen .... unfortunately ...

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]1. The Possibility the bedingten Compilierung.[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
on it bastele I straight. but i will yet nothing promise ...

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]2. Nativer Compiler for XProfan.[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
would be I gladly make, but as long as I a profession and a family have, becomes it presumably my Zeithorizont a little bit beyond ... but through Sebastians Profan2CPP there Yes already a simple Solution, circa from Profan View source nativen Maschinencode To produce.

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]3. real Pointer-variables in lieu of the reaches (or. these Possibility additional and optional) to introduce.[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
one can already now in XProfan in almost all command and functions, The reaches concern, too LongInts bring into action and these as real Pointer use. One Pointer is nothing other, as one 32-bit-worth.

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]4. One eingebauter Mini-Debugger ...[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
Hm, by me functions the Debugger correct.

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]5. finally once the many, many Syntax-Error from the official Helpfile Remove, ...[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
If me Error by Mail gemeldet go, bemühe I, tappt im dunkeln in a the next Help-versions To improve. moreover ought to naturally indicated go, where very itself this Error befindet. I can naturally not exclude, that nevertheless time the an or others forget becomes ... SORRY.

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]6. the of PROFAN.EXE interpretierte and the compilierte Program should itself finally bzgl. eventueller User-Programmierfehler at users identical behaviour![/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
this is from technical Found unfortunately not always 100%ig possible. but I bemühe me ...

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]7. ... something deutlicher as yet into Vordergrund back would.[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
i think, on the Unterseite Forums standing The XProfan-Community already right explicit in the Vordergrund! on the other hand get me in the past tense already rechtliche steps angedroht, because one Forenbetreiber meant, therefore Wettbewerbsnachteile to obtain, because I others Forums To very into Vordergrund to put would. i'm there means something vorsichtiger become. otherwise: Concerning one new Outfits the Homepage is some in the Busch, but presently has XProfan 10 priority.

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]8. The here in the XProfan-Community arisen Online-Documentation heard of my Erachtens prospective without large If and but on each future XProfan-Full Version-CD![/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
100% approval! If David me The permit erteilt and me CD-taugliche Version zukommen can, comes tappt im dunkeln with on it!

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]9. ... then should m.E. as quickly as possible one XProfan-editor since, in the XPSE at the outset already installed is, and welchem The XPSE-Opportunities ggf. optional To- or shorted go can.[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
to that a: already now (since XProfan 9) can XPSE optimal together with the actually ProfEd inserted go: in the exhaust general Settings simply with Interpreter and Compiler The XPSE-Exe with the suitable Parameters present. and with Davids permit becomes the XPSE again with on the CD his! (Also becomes a improved Development Environment in the XProfan-Source beiliegen, so that eachone itself these adjust can!)

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]10. Additional ought to next to XPSE absolutely at least too the appeal the XPIA of Frank Abbing in a new XProfan-editor integrate go. if one Beginner with Assembler (yet) not not plenty on the hat having ought to, then must it his tick with the CheckBox certain lines Yes not absolutely settle or. can the wegklicken.[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
One blutiger Beginner ought to itself Perhaps first time with reinem XProfan befassen, bervor it itself into depths the API or quite the Assemblers begibt. and there XPIA coercive whom XPSE vorraussetzt, can it already now over this free from problems eingebunden go. and as long as Frank it me allows, becomes naturally the XPIA again with on the CD his.

[quote:7c5bd79e9d]a couple further Opportunities had I of course ditto yet, but I would me already integral glücklicher feel, if you The Time find would, circa by degrees at least first time some the of me here named suggestions work out to ...[/quote:7c5bd79e9d]
at least with your well most important 1. wish I will me now same again befassen. on the paper lying the concept for bedingte Compilierung (angelehnt on Delphi with $DEFINE / $UNDEF / $IFDEF / $IFNDEF / $ELSE / $ENDIF) already since some Meet on my desk.

Greeting
Roland

Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4

[quote:e886f338there][quote:e886f338there]5. finally once the many, many Syntax-Error from the official Helpfile Remove, ...[/quote:e886f338there]If me Error by Mail gemeldet go, bemühe I, tappt im dunkeln in a the next Help-versions To improve. moreover ought to naturally indicated go, where very itself this Error befindet. I can naturally not exclude, that nevertheless time the an or others forget becomes ... SORRY.[/quote:e886f338there]and because the Zusenden of/ one E-Mail then still something costly is schreib I today here a Page with the it very simply and quick possible is a such HilfeBug To report. If the Page standing meld I this in the Regulars table.[quote:e886f338there][quote:e886f338there]8. The here in the XProfan-Community arisen Online-Documentation heard of my Erachtens prospective without large If and but on each future XProfan-Full Version-CD![/quote:e886f338there]100% approval! If David me The permit erteilt and me CD-taugliche Version zukommen can, comes tappt im dunkeln with on it![/quote:e886f338there]permit erteilt. I have there but a idea - More moreover under![quote:e886f338there][quote:e886f338there]9. ... then should m.E. as quickly as possible one XProfan-editor since, in the XPSE at the outset already installed is, and welchem The XPSE-Opportunities ggf. optional To- or shorted go can.[/quote:e886f338there]to that a: already now (since XProfan 9) can XPSE optimal together with the actually ProfEd inserted go: in the exhaust general Settings simply with Interpreter and Compiler The XPSE-Exe with the suitable Parameters present. and with Davids permit becomes the XPSE again with on the CD his! (Also becomes a improved Development Environment in the XProfan-Source beiliegen, so that eachone itself these adjust can!)[/quote:e886f338there]permit erteilt. I have there but a idea - More moreover under![quote:e886f338there][quote:e886f338there]10. Additional ought to next to XPSE absolutely at least too the appeal the XPIA of Frank Abbing in a new XProfan-editor integrate go. if one Beginner with Assembler (yet) not not plenty on the hat having ought to, then must it his tick with the CheckBox certain lines Yes not absolutely settle or. can the wegklicken.[/quote:e886f338there]One blutiger Beginner ought to itself Perhaps first time with reinem XProfan befassen, bervor it itself into depths the API or quite the Assemblers begibt. and there XPIA coercive whom XPSE vorraussetzt, can it already now over this free from problems eingebunden go. and as long as Frank it me allows, becomes naturally the XPIA again with on the CD his.[/quote:e886f338there]too to...I see the so: there's the XProfan, and ne crowd Gewusel (XPSE XPIA ODOKU XPRFEdit) drumherum. the XProfan self ought to eigenständig stay, already on my own therefore there weder XPSE yet The ODOKU whom Ausreifegrad of XProfan achieve. see we it means as Bonus.cant Bonus: Roland becomes Yes crazy if it on The XProfan-CD here-and-there one Extra einsortieren should. an klare Strukturierung To create would very heavy. my suggestion: The Community (means we any sammt) create ONE EINZIGES SETUP - this lying on XProfanCD in a own Ordner z.B. namens CD:Extras. this Setup installs then a) a alternative opensource Development Environment (XPRFEdit), whom XPSE+XPIA and the ODoku. naturally can Rolands Setup Yes inquiries whether in the Connection Extras too installs go should.

the Setup from Extras Gibts then naturally here in the Community to that Download. Beautiful simply?

Clemens
Meier

latter would genial. in the Context with the CD, could one too diejenigen Boni and Examples (to that example The really uralten, The on my XP partly To crash lead can) again out takes. the setting naturally ahead, one posting somewhere the suitable. would be there something contribute.

XProfan 9.1; XP SP2; FF; Editpad

Frank
Abbing

[quote:636cd33ebe]and as long as Frank it me allows, becomes naturally the XPIA again with on the CD his.[/quote:636cd33ebe]
self-evident!

RGH

The wish watts not yet here, but otherwise already number of times geäußert (gelle, Frank?

): Direktes write of/ one Memory-Variables in a File and direct Befüllen of/ one such a File, This will now (ex the next Subscriptionslieferung) weg. I have BlockWrite and BlockRead properly extended. in lieu of the Dateinummer can now too one Dateiname stand:

BlockWrite File$, area#, Start&, Anzahl&
The File File$ becomes created (!) and the suitable part the Bereiches into File geschieben. with BlockWrite File$, 0, FileSize(File$)) would one whom kompletten area into File write.

BytesGeschrieben& = BlockRead (File$, area#, Start&, Anzahl&)
The File File$ becomes into area ex Start& written. it go maximum Anzahl& Bytes red. the Result is the Number of gelesenen objectively Bytes. it weicht of Anzahl& ex, if The Filesize small as Anzahl& is. with BlockRead(File$, area#, 0, FileSize(File$)) would The complete File in whom area red go.

One example:
Compile Mark Separation

! BlockWrite / BlockRead Test
Declare Datei$, Ber#
Datei$ = LoadFile$("Datei auswählen:","*.*")

If Datei$ > ""

    Dim Ber#, FileSize(Datei$)
    BlockRead(Datei$, Ber#, 0, FileSize(Datei$))
    BlockWrite "C:\Test.Datei", Ber#, 0, SizeOf(Ber#)

Greeting
Roland

Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4

Frank
Abbing

[quote:05bffbdc52]The wish watts not yet here, but otherwise already number of times geäußert (gelle, Frank? )[/quote:05bffbdc52]
very, very beautiful. important was too, that The File new created becomes, thanks! accordingly are again two ProSpeed-functions superfluously become

Juhu the corresponds to vaguely the file_get_contents and file_put_contents which then so Umzusetzen are:
[...]

[...]

Habs here time umgesetzt: [...]

RGH

[quote:e6b05e3184=TS-Soft]64 bit INT means DoubleLongs or LongLongs

stops so did i for important. particularly at works with the Dateisystem are otherwise Files > 2 GB only difficult > 4 GB only very difficult To Edit

[/quote:e6b05e3184]
what hindert you, Floats einzusetzen? the Result of FileSize() is z.B. too one Float and functions too for Files larger as 2 GB. DiskSize() and DiskFree() supplying too Floats. One Float has 15-16 gültige Nachkommastellen, d.h. its up to one TeraByte (= 1000 Gigabyte) the byte very!

The reaches are though by the employment of Longs on 2 Gigabyte terminable. but computer with More as 2 Gb freiem Hauptspeicher dürften presently yet sooner seldom his.

Greeting
Roland

Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4

04/28/06 ▲

circa z.B. in more Files one FileSeek to execute, are IMHO Floats and Doubles unfit (Rundungsfehler etc.). some API-Functionen want nunmal too INT64, in this Context, with Structuren works, is still right umständlich

04/28/06 ▲

Nico
Madysa

I disrupt eure Discussion only ungern, but straight is me one wish invaded, the me really on the hearts lying.
i am pleased, that it in the XProfan-Help a List the Messages gives. though would I yet More forward, if too to the Message-Values Explanations there wären, its effect itself less well of names divert can. simply, circa Anfängern How me the works with @SendMessage To vereinfachen.

Nico Madysa

04/28/06 ▲