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Stefan
M.
Caillet

Hello iF, could now whom Charger something accurate look at. nevertheless Have ichs not yet To 100% understands - steh well quite on the pipeline. from the drawing erkenn I 2 Motoren. 1 to that Ausfahren, and 1 to that raise? if the mondfahrzeug times not utterly paralell to Wand, or 3mm zuweit in front or hinten standing, korrigierst You, the then through Lenkung and short Fahrimpulsen?
Alsu, if you in your Steuersoftware a Proc. write, The The Schneckengetriebemotoren the Chargers as well as too, if necessary The Fahrmotoren, short Pulst, think I, ought to it functions.
Please Informiere me baldigst, whether I as regards the Number of Motoren for Charger correctly. lie.
greeting Stefan

Ich habe grosses Glück, weil ich Mitmenschen helfen darf.
Entwicklungsumgebung:
XProfan11 , Win XP Pro 32Bit , Win XP Home ,Win7 HomePremium 64Bit
PC: P4/3GHz , 2GB RAM , 1700GB HD
Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo /2,2GHz , 4GB RAM , 500GB HD

very, Korrektur over urged on and Lenkung - thatswhy too for Marginalkorrekturen gegenläufige Antriebsrichtungen. (if at all necessary)

One motor heave/lowers whom sting, another drives to left or right out.

You must not forget, the association is in minutes emerged and never not Nich hardship no entire!

Stefan
M.
Caillet

what long endures, becomes finally well - now habs too I Dödel finally begriffen.
Idea for the move in the Stachels: You write a Proc namens "Ausstecken", The whom Stecker from the tin zieht - moreover sends The Proc a defined amount Impulse, The ausreicht around the Stecker sure and complete. rauszieht so The one Absenken possible is without the the Stecker on the tin anschlägt. thereafter becomes the commands "Stachel einziehen" (dezimal 64) gesendet, and my unit lowers whom poor ex, and zieht it one. thereby game it no role, whether the Stecker to left or right ausgefahren watts, I these Info at ausfahren save, so at Einfahren the motor automatically richtigherum runs.
moreover lay we a Parkposition solid, The through 2 Mikroschalter set is. (1 for Höhe + 1 for position, where the poor integrally eingezogen is. there the from/Einfahren and the raise/lower best with (short) Impulsen happens, is a DrehzahlREGELUNG not necessary.
what hold You of it? Hardwareseitig is the hoisted not übermässig, and Softwareseitig would the Ausstecker and move in the Steckers a integral relief.go.
Stefan

I should anytime whom sting independent of everything, one and ausfahren and high and Shutdown can and of course in kleinsten stepped. moreover comes, thatswhy supra my ask because of "Widerstand" I too The Info above need, How heavy itself one motor strain turn.

whether successful bagged is, or not, should not only optisch grasped go, separate too above, that one bestimmter resistance access becomes. on the dearest would me means wiedermal possible no automation durchs unit, except naturally circa Beschädigungen To avoid.

Perhaps make ichs me but too only (again) To tricky.

Stefan
M.
Caillet

Hello iF, its me clear, that You to that Einstecken The Info above need, with wiviel strength resp. how much resistance/Gegendruck on the Stecker works. my suggested automatic transmission relating itself only the retrieve the Steckers in that Moonbuggy to the Ladevorgang. The Krftmessung at einstecken can over the Motorstrom erfolgen, i'd however whom Stecker on a kind Schlitten, like one Federbein, on the at least one Mikroschalter or even one Schieberegler fasten is. The switch would chid, if the Stecker in the tin is, and the sting yet some mm moreover pressing, the Schieberegler were one signal ex, How heavy pressed becomes.
I had the in the previous Posting only not erwähnt had, because I presupposed having ,that You suitable Sicherheits-switch included have.
Stefan

understand! i'd on the dearest on a Mikroschalter dispense so as well as on others small Bauteile which not really stärkeren strengths exposed go. whom/The Stecker place I me so appropriate to, as if one its cables by a Röhre zieht, naturally but end correctly. fixes so this itself self not incline can. it would me means already on the dearest, if simply selbige Röhre its, which one/ausfährt. means rather Brutalokräfte as here Pippel and there ne Murmel or. one Schieberegler.

for the Steckvorgang means really only 2 vigorously Motoren a Röhre moving. at that Einziehvorgang ought to not occur, that the level itself changes, before The Röhre again complete in the Moonbuggy disappeared is. in the principle need the unit at all quite no Höhenänderungen "anweisen" - the level becomes only from the CPU changed, if it because (time) necessary is.

too during the rad is it in the Grunde alike, which Höhe The Röhre has, and whether eingezogen or ausgefahren. go too always of it from, that it for the car not really one supra and a under gives - it "fährt" so and so around.

an Murmel in a Röhre with Mikroschaltern not more than as Gyro.

Stefan
M.
Caillet

Yes, OK. there's simply the following To deliberating: 1. If you The Röhre with of/ one Spindel od. Schneckengetriebe antreibst, becomes The Rückwirkung the forces on the motor very small, the means the rose the Motorstroms is äusserst lowly and is therefore very difficult To detektieren.
2. with one Fahrzeuggewicht of ca. 40Kg and the application of "brutaler Gewalt" at Einstecken must You pay attention, that You The STECKDOSE not The Wand into rammst.
If you but latterly the Stachels whom Stecker on of/ one Schiebehülse, The You against Verdrehen secure,
and the an strong feather contains. have You ne good Possibility, a Sensor (Mikroschalter, od . Reflexlichtschranke,od. whatever) so place that it a (To)high Lastanzeigen can without self The mechanische liabilty getting off To must. the Sensor would in my unit effect, that the Stecker not any more deeper into tin pressing can, there it already deeply enough drin is.
Rausziehen goes in this drop naturally already. a little bit protection for poor Steckdosen should You too with brutaler violence einplanen because denk always on it: Power is nothing without control
Dass You on The Einzugsautomatik dispense can and want, is completely OK.
If you the thing too "af the Kopf" rad can, must You but no normalen Autobatterien bring into action, there these otherwise run out - Batteriesäure!!. You can but the gasdichten lead-Gel Akkus take, them is it alike, as they in the Kopfstand works must.
Stefan

Juhu! With the whom Autobatterien I had me already almost so virtual - lead-Gel-Akkus having similar Power?

>>Du The STECKDOSE not The Wand into rammst.

You again, but I understand the trouble thoroughly! (faith I at least...)

The resistance durchs Schneckengetriebe would To lowly to that detektieren one Unterschiedes, therefore a Puffer with "Druckknopf" - you become already completely to be right even if me The "Druckknopf"-Solution on attempt not pleased.

means another "Bit" for Button-Pressed so I stop could? (or me The option open stops, whom sting DOCH into Wand To ramming

)

Stefan
M.
Caillet

Yes, with the the Puffer is really my idea, only that the switch so appropriate becomes, that it The movement the Puffers not einschränkt. If the itself bewegende part the Puffers not, separate over the Stachelrohr slide, can you on the sting a Gabellichtschranke fasten, The through one flaches Metallstück, the on the beweglichen Hülse upright montiert is, interrupted becomes, These disruption happens first ex of/ one designed Einpresstiefe the Puffers..The Puffer can itself thereby nevertheless moreover spare moving, without that The Lichtschranke suffering.
there's there many Opportunities the trouble on secure and robuste manner To solve.
Akkus:
there's z.B 12V / 40Ah lead-Gel Akkus. The thing behave itself unfortunately so, that lead-Gel Akkus with Gleicher capacity ca. 2x so much cost, like a gewöhnlicher Bleiakku.
The Fa. Fiamm bid z.B. with the row FG.. right efficient Akkus on. the Price: with the FG22703 12V / 27Ah 2 Piece zus. 56Ah: ca. 200.-- Euro. weight: both zus. 18,7Kg. More performance access You with 2x FG24204 12V / 42Ah zus.84Ah for 280.-- Euro. weight: both zus. 30Kg.
both Akkus seen with AkkuShop.de
FG22703 [...]

FG24204 [...]

Stefan

2*FG24204 [...]

go it, good electoral?

To you or To me supplying? (if You these for the "Konzeptionieren" benötigst.)

unfortunately are stärkere Akkus same circa so plenty schwerer, you have with the FG24204 really already The this best rausgesucht How I find!

iF, Beitrag=53797, Zeitpunkt=10.08.2009

Stefan
M.
Caillet

To you or To me supplying? (if You these for the "Konzeptionieren" benötigst.)

i think, are with you integrally well aufgehoben. want You one Fertiges battery charger install, or should I one battery charger Specifically for lead-Gel Akkus baueun (finished Schaltpläne for had I in the Schublade present!
If I time little more performance need, schmeiss I my 1100W power adapter on - the supply with 12V satte 90 amp (Dauernd capable of taking stress!) and becomes thereby in 24 hours straight time 58strain warm (without ventilator, only Passiv gekühlt!)

iF, Beitrag=53797, Zeitpunkt=10.08.2009

unfortunately are stärkere Akkus same circa so plenty schwerer.

- and circa some expensive.

iF, Beitrag=53797, Zeitpunkt=10.08.2009

you have with the FG24204 really already The this best rausgesucht How I find!

thanks for flowers.
Apropos Stromverbrauch: you have said, that You whom PC aufs Mondfahrzeug montierst, is the one Laptop?.unless, How versorgst You it with power?.
Stefan

to that battery charger: I knows not what rather is, simply such battery charger moreover anzuschaffen? Hilf me!

to that PC: I thought there on such mini-PC [...]

. on the dearest would me naturally Connection ans Boardnetz but moreover have I no idea. I can you gladly (if again in Dt.) The data the external Netzteiles the PCs durchgeben.

the unit can We also gladly auseinanderwursteln around the consumption To reduce, instead of Festplatte vlt. USB-Stick etc...

in the principle need we well still only one Motherboard that already everything already onboard has - or?