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Stefan M. Caillet, Posting
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but the You a Platine produce can is quite interestingly, I had gladly something but kanns not produce...

One "Gerät?"The I a small computer (z.B. RS232 over USB) infect can and on a Autobatterie, which several (32?!) vigorously Gleichstrommotoren gesteuert with COM-Port-command geschwindigkeitsfreiwählbar turn/turn can.

have You a plan, what To do would?
 
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Stefan
M.
Caillet
@ E.T.,
The Akkus are already clear: I have 2 12V/42Ah BleiGel Akkus found.as iF the first time of it spoke, that it the thing on whom head to put wants, Have so did i immediate The Autobatterien run out see, and Have immediate to efficient, but yet bezahlbaren BleiGel Akkus gefahndet.
calm,that You too mitmachst.
greeting Stefan
 
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Thomas
Freier
ET: over The Antriebseinheit silence tappt im dunkeln itself yet from. Perhaps old bewährte engineering?
The Einsatzort erschließt itself I do not. GolfPlatz? Steckdosen Search and with 180° Überschlag is To calculate. means Bunker and Teiche in the lane.
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08/22/09  
 




Stefan
M.
Caillet
Hello Thomas, process IP68? means, there iF the unit sowiso attempts broken To catch, wished I the thing really rather as Freiluftfeuchtesensor with integriertem Rauchzeichengeber building.
No in the serious, say with the the pond not To loudly, otherwise wants iF the part suddenly yet tauchfähig
having
Stefan
 
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Detlef
Tussing
Hello IF

have you got you already time thoughts made, which Größenordnung your car having should

I faith is certainly 1metres time 0,75 metres go if everything on it should

and the weight becomes certainly on The 80 kg his

there must the Fehrgestell (tire, Achsen and Grundplatte) Yes some hold up

circa strength with geringen weight To to achieve is the suggestion with Kohlefasern The best Possibility

with the Size would I a Einzelradaufhängung with 4 Antriebsmotoren use

there heard well yet very plenty planning moreover (and certainly yet the a and others Profaner the with the Mechanik helps)
 
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08/22/09  
 



Please short reading and by the pages jumping - Ausmasse, weight, Body etc. are already given (having we already "eruiert") - too one association is (z.Time here in the Thread [...]  ) herunterladbar.
 
08/22/09  
 



@Stefan:

To "nicht puttmachen": OK, with the 1. Version should wirs quiet concern.

To "sonst building I there yet ne "Antikaputtmachsicherung" ein": the would even class and in the senses the Mondautos.

@Detlef: The Body is ca. 120x50x25cm, tire stand but everywhere over...



These Batterieen (2x [...]  ) are anvisiert, whom Boardstrom To supplying.

Chassi letztendlich so slight How possible, one plastic worn of a Metallramen käme there sure in question. someone a idea?

20kg Chassi
30kg battery
25kg motor
10kg PC+Stuff
10kg Desitron-unit+cables
35kg tire+undercarriage+Dämpfer+Antriebübertragung
20kg Stuff
=150kg

If then from it 80-90kg go, wärs still super!
 
08/22/09  
 



@E.T.: How would the because looks, what You as "Fahrwerk" suggest would? (and the question, whether You something like too for Vehice produce could.)
 
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Stefan
M.
Caillet
Hello iF, be straight thereby The Motorsteuerungen and -Endstufen To designen. Each Endstufe the Leistungsstufe) get a Elektromagnetische Sicherung (some Windungen Kupferdraht on one 3mm Stahlkern with a Hall-Sensor) missed. These manner the Strommessung has whom benefit, that the Spannungsverlust vernachlässigbar small is, whom Motoren means useful The filled thrill available having. resolve a this Sicherungen from, becomes The auslösende level shorted, The number the level in a Fehlerspeicher registered, and a ERROR-signal on whom PC gesendet. there can then your Program whom Error read to determine where The Überlastung was. is against everything i.O. can you whom Fehlerspeicher against delete, and so The level again on.
These Sicherungen serve solely to that protection the Leistungsstufen and are so high tuned, that one kurzzeitiges blockieren (under 4 Sec) one Motors none Einfluss has, so that The efficiency not beeinträchtigt becomes. Ausserdem won't the whole system, separate only the disturbed motor shorted. I hope that this in Your senses is.
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sound super einleuchtend, gladly!

what could such Sicherung trigger?
 
08/22/09  
 




Stefan
M.
Caillet
iF, Beitrag=53975, Zeitpunkt=22.08.2009
what could such Sicherung trigger?


??? Ähh, mean You now by which The Sicherung triggered go could?

now To by which: there wären z.B. one absolute Kurzschluss in the motor, defekte Motoranschlusskabel, The together or with volume joined are, complete mechanisches blockieren one Motors (or Getriebes) for More as ca.4-5 sec - prevented one Abrauchen the Motoren, ought to time a rverklemmt his, (z.B. if time one wheel somehow eingeklemmt is). therefore, that eachone motor single monitors is, have You The Possibility, the vehicle with the others Motoren again freizubekommen.
greeting Stefan
 
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class! (Yes, the meant I)

its incidentally not so virtual, that the wheeler vlt. quite regelmässig |/_ tip, that counts sooner as accident whom it hold possible unbeschaded intercepting ought to. On each drop but so, that it no role game, wierum it betrieben becomes.

by the floppy grossen tire could I me even stairs-Überwindung present - liesse itself really into unit too such Kreisel/Neigungssensor anschliessen? (I mean the Topic had we not yet integrally through)

GPS is about USB-Stick [...]  Safe and damits (as itself for a Mondfahrzeug heard) always accessible is vlt. one [...]  and WLAN [...]  (faith but I have yet where a wlan-stick present).
 
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Stefan
M.
Caillet
Hello iF, The question the Neigungs-Sensoren have we on Page 2 treats. have you there NEN suggestion made. Sihe simply time to.
a little while ago Have I short what over Radnabenmotoren seen, is not any more To see. moreover is the following To say: this are Bürstenluse Motoren, a Special Ansteuerung need. the means: for these can I The regulator not building. Ausserdem were there only 36V Motoren To see. Please stay with whom normalen Bürsten-Gleichstrommgetriebeotoren. an Possibility wären there windshield wipers-Motoren - are free from problems for 12V To get, having already one Schneckengetriebe dran, are vigorously quiet and the Stromverbrauch is too acceptable.
moreover comes yet the following: if I The regulator and to that part too the interface now because of another Motoren again Change must.had I sincere said something trouble so.
i'm hold something lazy, if I one concept useful ready in my head have, and suddenly again of in front begin must.
I hope, You take me the weder ill yet personally.
greeting Stefan

Nachtrag: i think, I can To monday evening whom next Schaltplan here Upload.on the tuesday I will because of my eyes not on the PC works can.
 
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