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speed, Profan ², XP and Bitmaps

 
Hello, in a body!

I have here several Questions speed of Profan² Programs:

1.
I have by me on the equal computer to Time four different Betriebssysteme installs (Pentium2, 233MHz - windows3.1 / windows95 / windows98 / windows2000). thereby is me noticed, that zumindestens The Bitmap command of Profan² under whom individual Betriebssystemen with (extreme) unterschiedlicher speed worn out go (tested with Speicherbitmaps of 640x270 Pixeln Size). under windows2000 shining The Testanwendung only with a drittel the speed How under windows95 To walk. under XP shining The speed even on one tenth To shrink! has someone similar/others Experience made? can itself someone these extremen differences explain? meet these Geschwindigkeitsunterschiede on others Profan command To?

2.
If the point 1. at all so zutrifft, How see it then with the speed of others , not Profan² erstellten Applications or. whom API`s from, The the same do?

3.
programs shine with the Profan² Version 6.0 twice so quick To walk, How with Version 7.5 (jedenfall The Bitmap command). How quick runs XProfan² really? faster as 6.0 or slower as 7.5?

4.
I have in my Testprogramm LOADSIZEDBMP akin, around the Testspielchen with eachone Grafikauflösung always in the same Size darzustellen. logical would here, that the Color Depth and the Bildschirmauflösung very heavy on The speed work out. But this is definitiv not all Rechnern so! How can itself the explain? lying the possible on the Grafiktreiber??

so, that I under Umständen on other Betriebssystemen with Geschwindigkeitsverlust calculate must, have I calculated. These extremen differences (under 1.) To windows2000/XP there can I me with my Erklärungsmodell on my own not hinbiegen - therefore here over again my survey...
 
05/09/04  
 



Hello Andreas, füge still simply the Posting your question a Dateihanhang (zipper) with a small FPS/Testprogramm hinzu, which one simply download and started can. accordingly is Perhaps the response a little bit faster on The Sprünge To help.

iF
 
05/09/04  
 




RGH
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2.
If the point 1. at all so zutrifft, How see it then with the speed of others , not Profan² erstellten Applications or. whom API`s from, The the same do?
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there Profan seinerseits neither plenty More power, as The API aufzurufen, might it with others Programs very similar his.

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3.
programs shine with the Profan² Version 6.0 twice so quick To walk, How with Version 7.5 (jedenfall The Bitmap command). How quick runs XProfan² really? faster as 6.0 or slower as 7.5?
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The Geschwindigkeitsverlust of 6.0 on 7.5 coming to that integrally geringen part by the Umstellung on long Strings zustande and to that biggest part by the not differently possible removal one Bugs, the To Fehlern with verschachtelten functions led, particularly with verschachtelten definierten functions. (faster as 6.0 is incidentally 6.6, the of course whom bow yet contains, but already whom new for Operators optimierten Parser using.)

XProfan (without ²!) ought to nevertheless a Tick faster as Profan 7.5 his, there it yet something optimiert watts.

[quote:5445ee122d=AH]
4.
I have in my Testprogramm LOADSIZEDBMP akin, around the Testspielchen with eachone Grafikauflösung always in the same Size darzustellen. logical would here, that the Color Depth and the Bildschirmauflösung very heavy on The speed work out. But this is definitiv not all Rechnern so! How can itself the explain? lying the possible on the Grafiktreiber??
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the lying with ziemlicher safety on the in-laws Grafiktreiber and the in-laws Grafikkarte. The differences are here sometimes terrific. the depends among other things of it ex, which works The Grafikkarte the Betreiebssystem abnimmt (and inwieweit The driver the know and respect). If the Color Depth explicit aufs tempo auswirkt, see it so from, as must the Betriebssystem a crowd yourself make. with höherer Color Depth are naturally properly More Bytes To moving. an updating the driver works sometimes wonder. The with the ticket mitgelieferten driver are often allererste unoptimierte unf bugbehaftete versions and the of Betriebssystem, mitgelieferten oftmals loveless programmed Standardtreiber of/ one whole cards-family, The of course with the ticket functions, your skills but hardly benefit. (so can itself of course each ticket with standard VGA and SVGA Treibern address, uses but thereby naturally only a Bruchteil yours Power. The graphic-processor becomes there often to that Nichtstun damn.)

[quote:5445ee122d=AH]
so, that I under Umständen on other Betriebssystemen with Geschwindigkeitsverlust calculate must, have I calculated. These extremen differences (under 1.) To windows2000/XP there can I me with my Erklärungsmodell on my own not hinbiegen - therefore here over again my survey...[/quote:5445ee122d]
the could under Umständen so concern, that XP and 2000 NT-mutants are and NT something moreover from the hardware removes is and therefore möglicherweise The Treiberprogrammierung aufwändiger is. but the are now only guesses.

I had to that example the feeling (but not nachgemessen), that Franks ProSpeed-Demos on my 1.5 MHz Win2000-computer explicit slower walk, as on the 300 MHz Win98-computer of my daughter!

Greeting
Roland
 
Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4
05/10/04  
 



Hello IF!

there must well time again my altes Jump and Run from windows 3.1 times for Test herhalten. there the Upload in that Forum not worked has, here The direct Downloadadresse:
[...] 

What is important for Test:
-Bildschirmauflösung of 640x480
-Farbauflösung 16bit
-to that testing the FPS not The mouse use separate ALT and m pressing

what I will know:
-FPS with high Bitmapauflösung in the game
-FPS with niedriger Bitmapauflösung in the game
-Betriebssystem
-Prozessorgeschwindigkeit
-evtl. Grafikkarte (AGP? PCI?)
-who pleasure has, can also yet The FPS with others screen- and Farbauflösungen post.

One second Testprogramm without Bitmaps have so did i yet with appended. the Program durchläuft 100000 time a Loop and gives then The needed Time in Millisekunden in a Editfeld from. deference! One Window becomes first with the spending prepares! too here interested me The values in ms and the processor as well as too the Betriebssystem!

on Roland:

thanks for your perfect response. so can I already very plenty begin!
 
05/10/04  
 



[quote:36c27b3a92=AH]Hello IF!

there must well time again my altes Jump and Run from windows 3.1 times for Test herhalten. there the Upload in that Forum not worked has, here The direct Downloadadresse...[/quote:36c27b3a92]
Dochdoch, the Upload works well, only hold not as EXE, the Have I prevented. Mancher vergißt too the z.B. a 850kB Zipdatei self with DSL loosly 40 sec need to that Upload, Forum is then During low the Uploads still and one could quick think it not working. it'll but of Browser During low the Uploads one load-beam displayed.

I have it simply Your 1. Posting supra time angehangen.

iF
 
05/10/04  
 



it would me really forward, if anybody sometime once on me think would and me a couple measured values übermittel.... or fits something with the Programs or the Download not??

Greeting

Andreas
 
05/18/04  
 



Yes means really angry of all *duck*

without Bitmaps: 2432, the game has 4 fps

P4, 2,4GHz, NVidia

iF
 
05/18/04  
 




Normann
Strübli
Have the Jumpn run launched and wished me old+m The Framerate
Show let but I sustained only whom Profan Error:
Division through 0!
row 466

the others Program has in the incision 1620ms used...

Testbedingungen:
WinXP
AMD Athlon 2600+
NVidia Geforce FX 5200
 
05/18/04  
 



Hello IF...

EXTREM interestingly!!! your Ergebniß the FPS and the others Testprogramms has me, though expects, glattweg of stool gehauen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the really yet none tested?? DAS GIBTS DOCH NOT!!!
gives it there any differences, if one high dissolution in the game under Options ankreuzt?

on Normann:

Please time high dissolution in the game under Options tick. let itself then The FPS Is it Unikode? gives it irgendeinen visible Difference in the speed the Spiels?

on any:

Since I The Results of IF hardly believe can, need I More Meßergebnisse (too others Betriebssysteme and slower Prozessoren are erwünscht). now time in the serious... If the really yet none tested? If my and IFs Results really voices, ought to the each interested!
 
05/19/04  
 




Dietmar
Horn
Result for Test.exe: 8160 ms under Win ME on

Intel Celeron 525 MHz
512 MB SDRAM
s3 Trio64+

Dietmar
 
Multimedia für Jugendliche und junge Erwachsene - MMJ Hoyerswerda e.V.  [...] 

Windows 95 bis Windows 7
Profan² 6.6 bis XProfan X2 mit XPSE

Das große XProfan-Lehrbuch:  [...] 
05/19/04  
 




RGH
Hi,

TEST.EXE reports by me (P4 1500 MHz, 512 MB RAM, Win2000 SP 4, NVIDA GeForce2 MX 100) 3826 ms.
with whom Frames the Spieles see it sooner strange from: normal dissolution about 4, high dissolution about 1.5, where The Results very pendulate. (screen 1280 * 1024 / 32 bit). with 640 * 480 come I according to Meßzeitpunkjt on 5 To 33 Frames (niedrige Aufl.) and on up to 25 Frames in high dissolution.

Greeting
Roland
 
Intel Duo E8400 3,0 GHz / 4 GB RAM / 1000 GB HDD - ATI Radeon HD 4770 512 MB - Windows 7 Home Premium 32Bit - XProfan X4
05/19/04  
 



for people with them The FPS-Messung not functions:
Please time whom Downloadlink
[...]  using, Perhaps funktionierts there. I must yet the game on 16bit paraphrase, the results tommorrow to of my night shift. then poste I here time my values under windows2000, windows3.1, windows95 and possible yet windows98.
 
05/19/04  
 




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