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Hello people...

i want not so in that detail weg, I hope but, that your me nevertheless understand:
there's a Possibility Würmer so To proggen, that these (first once installs) Systemprogramme unterlaufen, therefore in the Taskmanager not visible are and without Problems too Firewalls deceive. unless straight the Virenscanner these viruses recognize, there bislang no Possibility somehow to find out, that there something schädliches on the computer runs.

would be one Program the to such Würmern scannt and these too indicating if the Virenscanner tappt im dunkeln (yet) not recognize too interestingly, if this Scan not hunterprozentig perfect would - means of pfiffigen Virenschreibern Würmer geproggt go could, The this Scan without Problems unterwandern?

if so, who traut itself To with me to such Scanmöglichkeiten to search, circa in the Endeffekt one small Freewareprogramm for us Profaner here To write, the our computer something safer power as before?
 
02/26/07  
 




Bernd
Haase
Moin !

The Idea find I well. only mean I do not, that I in the site be you helpful To his. who your report reads, knows How deeply You in the system windows stick. me comes it so to, as would You hineinkriechen . i'd it saluting, if you one Program erschaffst, which whom computer safer power. Why neither same any others viruses and Wümer with unroof ? so has one one einziges Program, wleches safety bid. testing would I on any Cases.
 
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Bernd

Sind schon viele erfroren, aber noch keiner ist erstunken !!
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02/26/07  
 





Why neither same any others viruses and Wümer with unroof ?


it's about integrally Special Würmer, The differently only heavy or none To discover are (Related ProcHunter). The remainder becomes very well through Firewalls, Taskmanager and Virenscanner abgedeckt and can itself to hardship with bloßem eye discern.
 
02/26/07  
 



always since so - what understand You but under Firewall bypass?
 
02/26/07  
 





always since so - what understand You but under Firewall bypass?


is the thing installs, recognize The Firewall evtl. not any more, the there some Program something from the network fetch or versenden wants, the one not would like.
 
02/26/07  
 



No this is me To fundamentally. Redest You a Softwarefirewall? even if You only a Softwarefirewall redest - and so ought to these itself for the Program interested instead of for data The a designed Port on a defined IP sent go. These go still sooner geblockt...
 
02/26/07  
 



time to that understanding: I use here z.B. a Hardwarefirewall - these can ausschliesslich data OF of/ one designed MACAddr. through in that WAN - and the too only a designed Port which from the rule abweicht. Dou you mean too this a Solution found to have?
 
02/26/07  
 



I have of course no large Idea of internet and Netzwerken at all - but time adopted your Browser runs with you and You load you some Program down - verweigert you the jedesmal your Firewall?

If No, be I do not integrally so sure, whether your Firewall itself with this manner of Malware report would (my Softwarefirewall does the well not) ...

the, I make wants, is after a designed manner of Malware scannen and the User report, whether these on the computer present is. in the Contrast to the RootKits, to them ProcHunter scannt, back this manner of unsichtbarer Malware each Scanen (as long as The Malware one Virenscanner not famous is) on quite wackeligen bones.

It can even his, that some Firewall or Virenscanner it already report, if soetwas in the manner on my computer installs watts (have unfortunately there little Opportunities, the To testing) - the might but well not the Normalfall his.
 
02/26/07  
 



How I it understood have goes not therefore I runterlade. I know means not what with the of my Question do has. It's all right still therefore, the You data of my computer in that WAN portieren can. Hierbei would my Firewall integrally sure not even to judder and the power To prevent. If you But create - and here The holes - one Browserplugin To emulieren or you in Firefox reinzuschmuggeln - then could it his the it you succeed data by Postformular on a Server To transfer. here müsstest You but ausschliessliche on Port 80 zurückgreifen and the Header whom You send should perfect How z.B. of a Browser gesended go.
 
02/26/07  
 



I see - very therefore goes it Yes. circa software, The the do could, what You there addressed have.
It's all right here but not circa Firefox, sonder to all Things around the IE and further Microsoft Systemtools - deutlicher I will now not go.
It's all right therefore to find out, whether very such a thing happens is - independent of it, whether something gesendet or receive becomes or to Time otherwise something außergewohnliches on the OS happens or not.

with whom RootKits, to them ProcHunter scannt, is a Scannen very sure and the Results are eindeutig. with this manner of RootKit had I of course a idea - these idea on my own would but not enough for a reasonable Scan, this is simply To bypass...
 
02/26/07  
 



OK, will be into next Meet time diesbezüglich what basteln.
 
02/28/07  
 



 
03/09/07  
 




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